Change from labialized velar to labial
Is there a specific auditory reason for which a labiovelar such as "kʷ" becomes a "p" sound?This could also be applied to the change in Latin from "duellum" to "bellum"
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Is there a specific auditory reason for which a labiovelar such as "kʷ" becomes a "p" sound?This could also be applied to the change in Latin from "duellum" to "bellum"
phonology phonetics
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The title sounded like the development from [w] to [β̞] to me, because [w] is equally labial and velar. [kʷ] has velar closure but only labial approximation.
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@tobiornottobi You're right,I fixed it
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Is there a specific auditory reason for which a labiovelar such as "kʷ" becomes a "p" sound?This could also be applied to the change in Latin from "duellum" to "bellum"
phonology phonetics
asked 4 hours ago
X30Marco
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Is there a specific auditory reason for which a labiovelar such as "kʷ" becomes a "p" sound?This could also be applied to the change in Latin from "duellum" to "bellum"
phonology phonetics
phonology phonetics
asked 4 hours ago
X30Marco
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X30Marco
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X30Marco
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The title sounded like the development from [w] to [β̞] to me, because [w] is equally labial and velar. [kʷ] has velar closure but only labial approximation.
– tobiornottobi
3 hours ago
@tobiornottobi You're right,I fixed it
– X30Marco
3 hours ago
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The title sounded like the development from [w] to [β̞] to me, because [w] is equally labial and velar. [kʷ] has velar closure but only labial approximation.
– tobiornottobi
3 hours ago
@tobiornottobi You're right,I fixed it
– X30Marco
3 hours ago
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The title sounded like the development from [w] to [β̞] to me, because [w] is equally labial and velar. [kʷ] has velar closure but only labial approximation.
– tobiornottobi
3 hours ago
The title sounded like the development from [w] to [β̞] to me, because [w] is equally labial and velar. [kʷ] has velar closure but only labial approximation.
– tobiornottobi
3 hours ago
@tobiornottobi You're right,I fixed it
– X30Marco
3 hours ago
@tobiornottobi You're right,I fixed it
– X30Marco
3 hours ago
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I would say you hear the labialization (I think a lower F2) and you hear the plosion. These features are shared with [b] and [p]. The lack of voicing of [k] is further shared with [p] and the voicing of [d] is shared with [b].
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I would say you hear the labialization (I think a lower F2) and you hear the plosion. These features are shared with [b] and [p]. The lack of voicing of [k] is further shared with [p] and the voicing of [d] is shared with [b].
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I would say you hear the labialization (I think a lower F2) and you hear the plosion. These features are shared with [b] and [p]. The lack of voicing of [k] is further shared with [p] and the voicing of [d] is shared with [b].
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I would say you hear the labialization (I think a lower F2) and you hear the plosion. These features are shared with [b] and [p]. The lack of voicing of [k] is further shared with [p] and the voicing of [d] is shared with [b].
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I would say you hear the labialization (I think a lower F2) and you hear the plosion. These features are shared with [b] and [p]. The lack of voicing of [k] is further shared with [p] and the voicing of [d] is shared with [b].
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The title sounded like the development from [w] to [β̞] to me, because [w] is equally labial and velar. [kʷ] has velar closure but only labial approximation.
– tobiornottobi
3 hours ago
@tobiornottobi You're right,I fixed it
– X30Marco
3 hours ago