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Why so many of our public institutions inefficient? May be they are not, may be its just apparent. But I have indeed experienced the carelessness of the government bureaucrats, the assurance of them not losing their jobs no matter what, makes them behave utterly careless (atleast in India, say in a Municipality office). If the way ahead is more democratization of the workplace to fight the current levels of inequality, how would one tackle this peculiar behavior in public workplaces?









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  • are you asking whether there are cases where government intervention has yielded a measurable improvement in the efficiency of some public institution?
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  • We already got a question about minimizing corruption in civil service, so answering this again would be redundant. But I don't think that we have a question which addresses non-malicious inefficiency in public administration, so I edited the question to just keep those parts.
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  • Can you provide a concrete example of such inefficiencies?
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  • Migrate to economics?
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    Probably choosing the word 'inefficient' was not correct to reflect the doubt I had in mind. The situation on ground, particularly in India, is a mixture of corruption, bureaucratic red-tape, harassment by government officials of the citizen (harassment not just in the sense that the experience is time-consuming, that I can understand, but one has to bribe the official to get something done, say to obtain a building permit or a small business permit or even to get a document from the public records). Possible reasons: Large population ?, considerable illiteracy ? culture?
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Why so many of our public institutions inefficient? May be they are not, may be its just apparent. But I have indeed experienced the carelessness of the government bureaucrats, the assurance of them not losing their jobs no matter what, makes them behave utterly careless (atleast in India, say in a Municipality office). If the way ahead is more democratization of the workplace to fight the current levels of inequality, how would one tackle this peculiar behavior in public workplaces?









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  • are you asking whether there are cases where government intervention has yielded a measurable improvement in the efficiency of some public institution?
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  • We already got a question about minimizing corruption in civil service, so answering this again would be redundant. But I don't think that we have a question which addresses non-malicious inefficiency in public administration, so I edited the question to just keep those parts.
    – Philipp
    15 hours ago










  • Can you provide a concrete example of such inefficiencies?
    – JJJ
    14 hours ago










  • Migrate to economics?
    – Samuel Russell
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    Probably choosing the word 'inefficient' was not correct to reflect the doubt I had in mind. The situation on ground, particularly in India, is a mixture of corruption, bureaucratic red-tape, harassment by government officials of the citizen (harassment not just in the sense that the experience is time-consuming, that I can understand, but one has to bribe the official to get something done, say to obtain a building permit or a small business permit or even to get a document from the public records). Possible reasons: Large population ?, considerable illiteracy ? culture?
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Why so many of our public institutions inefficient? May be they are not, may be its just apparent. But I have indeed experienced the carelessness of the government bureaucrats, the assurance of them not losing their jobs no matter what, makes them behave utterly careless (atleast in India, say in a Municipality office). If the way ahead is more democratization of the workplace to fight the current levels of inequality, how would one tackle this peculiar behavior in public workplaces?









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  • are you asking whether there are cases where government intervention has yielded a measurable improvement in the efficiency of some public institution?
    – Mariah
    15 hours ago










  • We already got a question about minimizing corruption in civil service, so answering this again would be redundant. But I don't think that we have a question which addresses non-malicious inefficiency in public administration, so I edited the question to just keep those parts.
    – Philipp
    15 hours ago










  • Can you provide a concrete example of such inefficiencies?
    – JJJ
    14 hours ago










  • Migrate to economics?
    – Samuel Russell
    14 hours ago






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    Probably choosing the word 'inefficient' was not correct to reflect the doubt I had in mind. The situation on ground, particularly in India, is a mixture of corruption, bureaucratic red-tape, harassment by government officials of the citizen (harassment not just in the sense that the experience is time-consuming, that I can understand, but one has to bribe the official to get something done, say to obtain a building permit or a small business permit or even to get a document from the public records). Possible reasons: Large population ?, considerable illiteracy ? culture?
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  • are you asking whether there are cases where government intervention has yielded a measurable improvement in the efficiency of some public institution?
    – Mariah
    15 hours ago










  • We already got a question about minimizing corruption in civil service, so answering this again would be redundant. But I don't think that we have a question which addresses non-malicious inefficiency in public administration, so I edited the question to just keep those parts.
    – Philipp
    15 hours ago










  • Can you provide a concrete example of such inefficiencies?
    – JJJ
    14 hours ago










  • Migrate to economics?
    – Samuel Russell
    14 hours ago






  • 1




    Probably choosing the word 'inefficient' was not correct to reflect the doubt I had in mind. The situation on ground, particularly in India, is a mixture of corruption, bureaucratic red-tape, harassment by government officials of the citizen (harassment not just in the sense that the experience is time-consuming, that I can understand, but one has to bribe the official to get something done, say to obtain a building permit or a small business permit or even to get a document from the public records). Possible reasons: Large population ?, considerable illiteracy ? culture?
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are you asking whether there are cases where government intervention has yielded a measurable improvement in the efficiency of some public institution?
– Mariah
15 hours ago




are you asking whether there are cases where government intervention has yielded a measurable improvement in the efficiency of some public institution?
– Mariah
15 hours ago












We already got a question about minimizing corruption in civil service, so answering this again would be redundant. But I don't think that we have a question which addresses non-malicious inefficiency in public administration, so I edited the question to just keep those parts.
– Philipp
15 hours ago




We already got a question about minimizing corruption in civil service, so answering this again would be redundant. But I don't think that we have a question which addresses non-malicious inefficiency in public administration, so I edited the question to just keep those parts.
– Philipp
15 hours ago












Can you provide a concrete example of such inefficiencies?
– JJJ
14 hours ago




Can you provide a concrete example of such inefficiencies?
– JJJ
14 hours ago












Migrate to economics?
– Samuel Russell
14 hours ago




Migrate to economics?
– Samuel Russell
14 hours ago




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Probably choosing the word 'inefficient' was not correct to reflect the doubt I had in mind. The situation on ground, particularly in India, is a mixture of corruption, bureaucratic red-tape, harassment by government officials of the citizen (harassment not just in the sense that the experience is time-consuming, that I can understand, but one has to bribe the official to get something done, say to obtain a building permit or a small business permit or even to get a document from the public records). Possible reasons: Large population ?, considerable illiteracy ? culture?
– k.kulkarni19952
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Probably choosing the word 'inefficient' was not correct to reflect the doubt I had in mind. The situation on ground, particularly in India, is a mixture of corruption, bureaucratic red-tape, harassment by government officials of the citizen (harassment not just in the sense that the experience is time-consuming, that I can understand, but one has to bribe the official to get something done, say to obtain a building permit or a small business permit or even to get a document from the public records). Possible reasons: Large population ?, considerable illiteracy ? culture?
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There is no one answer, because some agencies are more efficient than others.



For example, Medicare is much more efficient in processing and paying medical claims than private insurance companies are at the same task. Similarly, Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence. The U.S. Department of Education took over direct servicing of student loans because that turned out to be more efficient than what the private sector was doing.



Also, in some cases, it is hard to compare because there is no close private sector counterpart. One could say that the Department of Defense is very inefficient, but their its no private sector counterpart running the largest military force in the world by many measures. One could try to compare, for example, the efficiency of military defense procurement projects done by private companies under contract with the government to private sector manufacturing enterprises of other kinds, like automobile manufacturers. But, private sector manufacturing is arguably under pressure to produce very different objectives - the best possible outcome at an affordable price, rather than the best possible outcome at any price because losing means the end of civilization as we know it.



There are also areas where there is considerable private sector competition with public sector institutions, providing a means of comparison, but the public sector institutions aren't notably better or worse in efficiency than the private sector counterparts and both are equally inefficient. There is a good case to be made that this is true of schools, colleges, universities and hospitals. There is likewise no compelling evidence that private prisons are run more efficiently, controlling for the makeup of the prisoners supervised, than public prisons.



Certainly, this isn't to say that there are no areas where the private sector does not get the job done better and cheaper than the public sector. But, even in those cases, this isn't universal. Some countries, like France and Sweden, do a particularly good job of public administration. Indeed, the most prestigious university in all of France is a school for public administrators. Other countries, like the U.S. are less good at public administration.



But, as these examples illustrate, there is no one compelling reason.



Probably the most powerful reason that the private sector is sometimes better than the public sector comes from countries with lots of state owned enterprises. Comparisons in those cases indicate that the single biggest factor is that money losing private businesses promptly go out of business or are reorganized in bankruptcy, while money losing state owned enterprises are often subsidized and kept in business for a long time.





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    "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
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    Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
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  • The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
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  • @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
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  • @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
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Just like anything else, most things humans do arise out of incentives.




  • A private company employee has incentive to be efficient because if they are not, their manager has incentives to fire them, and replace them with a more efficient employee.


  • A private company manager has incentive to do that because efficiency has direct impact on productivity and/or customer satisfaction; both of which have direct impact on revenues; due to competition (a low-productivity producer must charge more leading to customers picking competing product; unsatisfied customer can also chose competing product).


  • A private company manager has incentive to care about revenues because on the upside, if revenues are higher, they get better pay; and promotions; whereas on the downside, if revenues are sufficiently lower, they get fired in layoffs; or in worst case, company goes under and everyone loses their job.



Now, compare that to public institution. Those institutions are characterized by 3 features:





  • Monopoly and lack of competition.



    If you as a customer do not like the product or a service offered by a private institution, you are typically S.O.L. There is usually no competing product or service being offered; due to a government rule, law or mandate. You cannot choose to get a driving ID from a private company if your motor vehicle department works poorly or demands bribes. You cannot have your house improvements certified by a private inspection company, you have to wait for a never-in-a-hurry government bureaucrat to do that.



    Or, the service or product has barriers to entry too high, due to scarce resources. For example, water delivery requires physical pipes, so a private company would be unlikely to be able to do this at a competing price. Ironically, this isn't unique to public institutions - same problems caused the rise of landline phone monopolies earlier and wired Internet service provider monopolies nowadays.



    Or, in case of some services, the competing private ones cost too much for the poor; and government one is the only available option within near-free price range (as the service is subsidized by government budget).




  • No need to ensure revenue.



    Revenues for public institutions are generated by forcing taxpayers to pay taxes and allocating government revenue by the government out of that. As such, there is no direct impact on revenues from quality of service or product; or productivity[1].



    [1] - one could argue there is an indirect impact in that poor service/product may lead to lower overall economic growth which leads to lower tax revenues down the line. But that is way way too indirect to matter in this case.




  • Employee incomes are not correlated with efficiency.



    If you work better at a private company, you have a chance of being paid more (performance bonuses, pay raises) - see the incentive structure above. At a public institution, they pay is typically very static, with no performance impact on compensation.




  • In some cases, it's impossible or difficult to fire poor performers, even if the institution and its managers would want that.



    First, there are unions. At least in USA, public institutions are far far far more heavily unionized than private ones. Second, there are rules about firing people in public institutions, as the employer is "government".








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    Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
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Others have noted the issues with incentives and competition, but there is actually another reason, which is dis-economies of scale.



Back in 1937 economist Ronald Coase asked the deceptively simple question: "why do companies exist?". He reasoned that if the open market was the most efficient way of getting things done then firms (i.e. companies with lots of employees) shouldn't exist; the economy would consist entirely of individual contractors. However firms do exist, and different markets seem to favour different sizes of firms. This led him to set out his "theory of the firm".



As a company grows it can exploit economies of scale; if you make 100 widgets a week it costs $2/widget, but if you can make 1,000 widgets a week you can reduce the cost to $1.90/widget by increasing automation, using your staff in more specialised roles that require less training, getting bulk discounts on your inputs, and so on. Hence in the widget business companies grow or go out of business; the company making only 100 widgets/week is not going to be able to compete with the one making 1,000/week.



So why isn't the economy dominated by a single giant monopoly in everything? The answer is that increasing scale brings dis-economies:




  • Coordination becomes more difficult. The guy on the factory floor may realise that screw No. 7 is difficult to get in, but that information doesn't get back to the design department where it could be fixed.


  • New products take longer to bring out because of the work required to retool and reskill the production line.


  • Employees no longer need to work hard to "succeed". Instead they are given targets and can relax once these are achieved. Their managers have no incentive to make these targets a real challenge because then they would be seen as failing too. This disincentive goes all the way from the bottom to the top, which is why so many CEOs pocket big bonuses for lack-lustre performance.


  • Some middle managers also play empire-building games, seek to undermine each other, and generally mess up the efficiency of the company.



So in any industry there is an optimum point where the economies of scale due to additional growth are matched by the dis-economies. Companies in this industry will tend towards this size.



Now consider the government. It is probably the biggest organization in the country, doing a vast range of different jobs under very variable circumstances. The result will be huge dis-economies of scale.






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    Public institutions are inefficient because they are removed from the natural market place.
    They don't have any competition. Private businesses must be efficient to succeed in a free enterprise market economy. When you have a monopoly on any good or service there's zero motivating factors to increase efficiency.
    Also add the bureaucratic attitude that all government agencies inherently have, which is a need and desire to spend all allocated funds or risk a reduction in those funds in the following year; combined with a tenor based, versus a productivity based, pay scale and you have a tasty recipe for low productivity.






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      While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
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      @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
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      Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
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    • @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
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      @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
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    I've worked at both private and public institutions. Neither seem significantly more or less efficient than the other - there's tons of waste in private institutions but people don't seem to care about that as much.






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      Public institutions are by definition inefficient. Efficiency is an economic term describing profitability. Public institutions are definitionally irrational. Rational market agents maximise profits. Definitionally public institutions reflect the State’s will. The State’s will is not profit maximisation: minimally the state must maintain a monopoly of force which is in contradiction to profit maximisation.



      Assuming a democratic state where institutions perfectly reflect the public will, workplace democracy is incompatible with this. Sectional wills aren’t equivalent to the total will. Local democracies aren’t identical with the democratic state.



      Would workplace democracy in an efficient workplace reduce inequality? Is workplace democracy profit maximisation?



      I believe you’re gesturing at post-capitalist economic relations and the question of calculating the extent to which chosen economics (“planning” “workplace democracy”) produces the desired quantity of the good things in life with the least objectionable labour.






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        Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
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      There is no one answer, because some agencies are more efficient than others.



      For example, Medicare is much more efficient in processing and paying medical claims than private insurance companies are at the same task. Similarly, Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence. The U.S. Department of Education took over direct servicing of student loans because that turned out to be more efficient than what the private sector was doing.



      Also, in some cases, it is hard to compare because there is no close private sector counterpart. One could say that the Department of Defense is very inefficient, but their its no private sector counterpart running the largest military force in the world by many measures. One could try to compare, for example, the efficiency of military defense procurement projects done by private companies under contract with the government to private sector manufacturing enterprises of other kinds, like automobile manufacturers. But, private sector manufacturing is arguably under pressure to produce very different objectives - the best possible outcome at an affordable price, rather than the best possible outcome at any price because losing means the end of civilization as we know it.



      There are also areas where there is considerable private sector competition with public sector institutions, providing a means of comparison, but the public sector institutions aren't notably better or worse in efficiency than the private sector counterparts and both are equally inefficient. There is a good case to be made that this is true of schools, colleges, universities and hospitals. There is likewise no compelling evidence that private prisons are run more efficiently, controlling for the makeup of the prisoners supervised, than public prisons.



      Certainly, this isn't to say that there are no areas where the private sector does not get the job done better and cheaper than the public sector. But, even in those cases, this isn't universal. Some countries, like France and Sweden, do a particularly good job of public administration. Indeed, the most prestigious university in all of France is a school for public administrators. Other countries, like the U.S. are less good at public administration.



      But, as these examples illustrate, there is no one compelling reason.



      Probably the most powerful reason that the private sector is sometimes better than the public sector comes from countries with lots of state owned enterprises. Comparisons in those cases indicate that the single biggest factor is that money losing private businesses promptly go out of business or are reorganized in bankruptcy, while money losing state owned enterprises are often subsidized and kept in business for a long time.





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        "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
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        Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
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      • The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
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      • @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
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      • @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
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      There is no one answer, because some agencies are more efficient than others.



      For example, Medicare is much more efficient in processing and paying medical claims than private insurance companies are at the same task. Similarly, Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence. The U.S. Department of Education took over direct servicing of student loans because that turned out to be more efficient than what the private sector was doing.



      Also, in some cases, it is hard to compare because there is no close private sector counterpart. One could say that the Department of Defense is very inefficient, but their its no private sector counterpart running the largest military force in the world by many measures. One could try to compare, for example, the efficiency of military defense procurement projects done by private companies under contract with the government to private sector manufacturing enterprises of other kinds, like automobile manufacturers. But, private sector manufacturing is arguably under pressure to produce very different objectives - the best possible outcome at an affordable price, rather than the best possible outcome at any price because losing means the end of civilization as we know it.



      There are also areas where there is considerable private sector competition with public sector institutions, providing a means of comparison, but the public sector institutions aren't notably better or worse in efficiency than the private sector counterparts and both are equally inefficient. There is a good case to be made that this is true of schools, colleges, universities and hospitals. There is likewise no compelling evidence that private prisons are run more efficiently, controlling for the makeup of the prisoners supervised, than public prisons.



      Certainly, this isn't to say that there are no areas where the private sector does not get the job done better and cheaper than the public sector. But, even in those cases, this isn't universal. Some countries, like France and Sweden, do a particularly good job of public administration. Indeed, the most prestigious university in all of France is a school for public administrators. Other countries, like the U.S. are less good at public administration.



      But, as these examples illustrate, there is no one compelling reason.



      Probably the most powerful reason that the private sector is sometimes better than the public sector comes from countries with lots of state owned enterprises. Comparisons in those cases indicate that the single biggest factor is that money losing private businesses promptly go out of business or are reorganized in bankruptcy, while money losing state owned enterprises are often subsidized and kept in business for a long time.





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        "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
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        Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
        – Leon
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      • The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
        – David Rice
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      • @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
        – sevenbrokenbricks
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      • @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
        – David Rice
        5 mins ago














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      There is no one answer, because some agencies are more efficient than others.



      For example, Medicare is much more efficient in processing and paying medical claims than private insurance companies are at the same task. Similarly, Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence. The U.S. Department of Education took over direct servicing of student loans because that turned out to be more efficient than what the private sector was doing.



      Also, in some cases, it is hard to compare because there is no close private sector counterpart. One could say that the Department of Defense is very inefficient, but their its no private sector counterpart running the largest military force in the world by many measures. One could try to compare, for example, the efficiency of military defense procurement projects done by private companies under contract with the government to private sector manufacturing enterprises of other kinds, like automobile manufacturers. But, private sector manufacturing is arguably under pressure to produce very different objectives - the best possible outcome at an affordable price, rather than the best possible outcome at any price because losing means the end of civilization as we know it.



      There are also areas where there is considerable private sector competition with public sector institutions, providing a means of comparison, but the public sector institutions aren't notably better or worse in efficiency than the private sector counterparts and both are equally inefficient. There is a good case to be made that this is true of schools, colleges, universities and hospitals. There is likewise no compelling evidence that private prisons are run more efficiently, controlling for the makeup of the prisoners supervised, than public prisons.



      Certainly, this isn't to say that there are no areas where the private sector does not get the job done better and cheaper than the public sector. But, even in those cases, this isn't universal. Some countries, like France and Sweden, do a particularly good job of public administration. Indeed, the most prestigious university in all of France is a school for public administrators. Other countries, like the U.S. are less good at public administration.



      But, as these examples illustrate, there is no one compelling reason.



      Probably the most powerful reason that the private sector is sometimes better than the public sector comes from countries with lots of state owned enterprises. Comparisons in those cases indicate that the single biggest factor is that money losing private businesses promptly go out of business or are reorganized in bankruptcy, while money losing state owned enterprises are often subsidized and kept in business for a long time.





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      There is no one answer, because some agencies are more efficient than others.



      For example, Medicare is much more efficient in processing and paying medical claims than private insurance companies are at the same task. Similarly, Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence. The U.S. Department of Education took over direct servicing of student loans because that turned out to be more efficient than what the private sector was doing.



      Also, in some cases, it is hard to compare because there is no close private sector counterpart. One could say that the Department of Defense is very inefficient, but their its no private sector counterpart running the largest military force in the world by many measures. One could try to compare, for example, the efficiency of military defense procurement projects done by private companies under contract with the government to private sector manufacturing enterprises of other kinds, like automobile manufacturers. But, private sector manufacturing is arguably under pressure to produce very different objectives - the best possible outcome at an affordable price, rather than the best possible outcome at any price because losing means the end of civilization as we know it.



      There are also areas where there is considerable private sector competition with public sector institutions, providing a means of comparison, but the public sector institutions aren't notably better or worse in efficiency than the private sector counterparts and both are equally inefficient. There is a good case to be made that this is true of schools, colleges, universities and hospitals. There is likewise no compelling evidence that private prisons are run more efficiently, controlling for the makeup of the prisoners supervised, than public prisons.



      Certainly, this isn't to say that there are no areas where the private sector does not get the job done better and cheaper than the public sector. But, even in those cases, this isn't universal. Some countries, like France and Sweden, do a particularly good job of public administration. Indeed, the most prestigious university in all of France is a school for public administrators. Other countries, like the U.S. are less good at public administration.



      But, as these examples illustrate, there is no one compelling reason.



      Probably the most powerful reason that the private sector is sometimes better than the public sector comes from countries with lots of state owned enterprises. Comparisons in those cases indicate that the single biggest factor is that money losing private businesses promptly go out of business or are reorganized in bankruptcy, while money losing state owned enterprises are often subsidized and kept in business for a long time.






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        "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
        – user4012
        4 hours ago






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        Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
        – Leon
        3 hours ago










      • The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
        – David Rice
        1 hour ago










      • @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
        – sevenbrokenbricks
        9 mins ago










      • @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
        – David Rice
        5 mins ago














      • 1




        "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
        – user4012
        4 hours ago






      • 3




        Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
        – Leon
        3 hours ago










      • The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
        – David Rice
        1 hour ago










      • @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
        – sevenbrokenbricks
        9 mins ago










      • @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
        – David Rice
        5 mins ago








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      "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
      – user4012
      4 hours ago




      "Social Security is more efficient than almost any private sector retirement plan in existence." - [citation needed]. As well as how you define "efficiency" in context of an investment vehicle vs. a pyramid scheme that doesn't actually invest and depends on more and more people paying in.
      – user4012
      4 hours ago




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      Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
      – Leon
      3 hours ago




      Nice answer, I would suggest though to add citations for some of the claims made within it.
      – Leon
      3 hours ago












      The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
      – David Rice
      1 hour ago




      The fact that businesses frequently go out of business due to inefficiency should indicate that private enterprise isn't efficient in general.
      – David Rice
      1 hour ago












      @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
      – sevenbrokenbricks
      9 mins ago




      @DavidRice It doesn’t, because the ones out of business are now out of business, leaving the efficient ones in business. That happens as automatically as blood clotting in the private sector.
      – sevenbrokenbricks
      9 mins ago












      @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
      – David Rice
      5 mins ago




      @sevenbrokenbricks Sure - if you compare "businesses which have been open for decades" to public sector, you might have a point. But the private sector includes many failing businesses, and businesses which are profitable enough to survive but are inefficient in that they don't minimize their costs.
      – David Rice
      5 mins ago











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      Just like anything else, most things humans do arise out of incentives.




      • A private company employee has incentive to be efficient because if they are not, their manager has incentives to fire them, and replace them with a more efficient employee.


      • A private company manager has incentive to do that because efficiency has direct impact on productivity and/or customer satisfaction; both of which have direct impact on revenues; due to competition (a low-productivity producer must charge more leading to customers picking competing product; unsatisfied customer can also chose competing product).


      • A private company manager has incentive to care about revenues because on the upside, if revenues are higher, they get better pay; and promotions; whereas on the downside, if revenues are sufficiently lower, they get fired in layoffs; or in worst case, company goes under and everyone loses their job.



      Now, compare that to public institution. Those institutions are characterized by 3 features:





      • Monopoly and lack of competition.



        If you as a customer do not like the product or a service offered by a private institution, you are typically S.O.L. There is usually no competing product or service being offered; due to a government rule, law or mandate. You cannot choose to get a driving ID from a private company if your motor vehicle department works poorly or demands bribes. You cannot have your house improvements certified by a private inspection company, you have to wait for a never-in-a-hurry government bureaucrat to do that.



        Or, the service or product has barriers to entry too high, due to scarce resources. For example, water delivery requires physical pipes, so a private company would be unlikely to be able to do this at a competing price. Ironically, this isn't unique to public institutions - same problems caused the rise of landline phone monopolies earlier and wired Internet service provider monopolies nowadays.



        Or, in case of some services, the competing private ones cost too much for the poor; and government one is the only available option within near-free price range (as the service is subsidized by government budget).




      • No need to ensure revenue.



        Revenues for public institutions are generated by forcing taxpayers to pay taxes and allocating government revenue by the government out of that. As such, there is no direct impact on revenues from quality of service or product; or productivity[1].



        [1] - one could argue there is an indirect impact in that poor service/product may lead to lower overall economic growth which leads to lower tax revenues down the line. But that is way way too indirect to matter in this case.




      • Employee incomes are not correlated with efficiency.



        If you work better at a private company, you have a chance of being paid more (performance bonuses, pay raises) - see the incentive structure above. At a public institution, they pay is typically very static, with no performance impact on compensation.




      • In some cases, it's impossible or difficult to fire poor performers, even if the institution and its managers would want that.



        First, there are unions. At least in USA, public institutions are far far far more heavily unionized than private ones. Second, there are rules about firing people in public institutions, as the employer is "government".








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        Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
        – Jack Of All Trades 234
        36 mins ago
















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      Just like anything else, most things humans do arise out of incentives.




      • A private company employee has incentive to be efficient because if they are not, their manager has incentives to fire them, and replace them with a more efficient employee.


      • A private company manager has incentive to do that because efficiency has direct impact on productivity and/or customer satisfaction; both of which have direct impact on revenues; due to competition (a low-productivity producer must charge more leading to customers picking competing product; unsatisfied customer can also chose competing product).


      • A private company manager has incentive to care about revenues because on the upside, if revenues are higher, they get better pay; and promotions; whereas on the downside, if revenues are sufficiently lower, they get fired in layoffs; or in worst case, company goes under and everyone loses their job.



      Now, compare that to public institution. Those institutions are characterized by 3 features:





      • Monopoly and lack of competition.



        If you as a customer do not like the product or a service offered by a private institution, you are typically S.O.L. There is usually no competing product or service being offered; due to a government rule, law or mandate. You cannot choose to get a driving ID from a private company if your motor vehicle department works poorly or demands bribes. You cannot have your house improvements certified by a private inspection company, you have to wait for a never-in-a-hurry government bureaucrat to do that.



        Or, the service or product has barriers to entry too high, due to scarce resources. For example, water delivery requires physical pipes, so a private company would be unlikely to be able to do this at a competing price. Ironically, this isn't unique to public institutions - same problems caused the rise of landline phone monopolies earlier and wired Internet service provider monopolies nowadays.



        Or, in case of some services, the competing private ones cost too much for the poor; and government one is the only available option within near-free price range (as the service is subsidized by government budget).




      • No need to ensure revenue.



        Revenues for public institutions are generated by forcing taxpayers to pay taxes and allocating government revenue by the government out of that. As such, there is no direct impact on revenues from quality of service or product; or productivity[1].



        [1] - one could argue there is an indirect impact in that poor service/product may lead to lower overall economic growth which leads to lower tax revenues down the line. But that is way way too indirect to matter in this case.




      • Employee incomes are not correlated with efficiency.



        If you work better at a private company, you have a chance of being paid more (performance bonuses, pay raises) - see the incentive structure above. At a public institution, they pay is typically very static, with no performance impact on compensation.




      • In some cases, it's impossible or difficult to fire poor performers, even if the institution and its managers would want that.



        First, there are unions. At least in USA, public institutions are far far far more heavily unionized than private ones. Second, there are rules about firing people in public institutions, as the employer is "government".








      share|improve this answer

















      • 1




        Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
        – Jack Of All Trades 234
        36 mins ago














      5












      5








      5






      Just like anything else, most things humans do arise out of incentives.




      • A private company employee has incentive to be efficient because if they are not, their manager has incentives to fire them, and replace them with a more efficient employee.


      • A private company manager has incentive to do that because efficiency has direct impact on productivity and/or customer satisfaction; both of which have direct impact on revenues; due to competition (a low-productivity producer must charge more leading to customers picking competing product; unsatisfied customer can also chose competing product).


      • A private company manager has incentive to care about revenues because on the upside, if revenues are higher, they get better pay; and promotions; whereas on the downside, if revenues are sufficiently lower, they get fired in layoffs; or in worst case, company goes under and everyone loses their job.



      Now, compare that to public institution. Those institutions are characterized by 3 features:





      • Monopoly and lack of competition.



        If you as a customer do not like the product or a service offered by a private institution, you are typically S.O.L. There is usually no competing product or service being offered; due to a government rule, law or mandate. You cannot choose to get a driving ID from a private company if your motor vehicle department works poorly or demands bribes. You cannot have your house improvements certified by a private inspection company, you have to wait for a never-in-a-hurry government bureaucrat to do that.



        Or, the service or product has barriers to entry too high, due to scarce resources. For example, water delivery requires physical pipes, so a private company would be unlikely to be able to do this at a competing price. Ironically, this isn't unique to public institutions - same problems caused the rise of landline phone monopolies earlier and wired Internet service provider monopolies nowadays.



        Or, in case of some services, the competing private ones cost too much for the poor; and government one is the only available option within near-free price range (as the service is subsidized by government budget).




      • No need to ensure revenue.



        Revenues for public institutions are generated by forcing taxpayers to pay taxes and allocating government revenue by the government out of that. As such, there is no direct impact on revenues from quality of service or product; or productivity[1].



        [1] - one could argue there is an indirect impact in that poor service/product may lead to lower overall economic growth which leads to lower tax revenues down the line. But that is way way too indirect to matter in this case.




      • Employee incomes are not correlated with efficiency.



        If you work better at a private company, you have a chance of being paid more (performance bonuses, pay raises) - see the incentive structure above. At a public institution, they pay is typically very static, with no performance impact on compensation.




      • In some cases, it's impossible or difficult to fire poor performers, even if the institution and its managers would want that.



        First, there are unions. At least in USA, public institutions are far far far more heavily unionized than private ones. Second, there are rules about firing people in public institutions, as the employer is "government".








      share|improve this answer












      Just like anything else, most things humans do arise out of incentives.




      • A private company employee has incentive to be efficient because if they are not, their manager has incentives to fire them, and replace them with a more efficient employee.


      • A private company manager has incentive to do that because efficiency has direct impact on productivity and/or customer satisfaction; both of which have direct impact on revenues; due to competition (a low-productivity producer must charge more leading to customers picking competing product; unsatisfied customer can also chose competing product).


      • A private company manager has incentive to care about revenues because on the upside, if revenues are higher, they get better pay; and promotions; whereas on the downside, if revenues are sufficiently lower, they get fired in layoffs; or in worst case, company goes under and everyone loses their job.



      Now, compare that to public institution. Those institutions are characterized by 3 features:





      • Monopoly and lack of competition.



        If you as a customer do not like the product or a service offered by a private institution, you are typically S.O.L. There is usually no competing product or service being offered; due to a government rule, law or mandate. You cannot choose to get a driving ID from a private company if your motor vehicle department works poorly or demands bribes. You cannot have your house improvements certified by a private inspection company, you have to wait for a never-in-a-hurry government bureaucrat to do that.



        Or, the service or product has barriers to entry too high, due to scarce resources. For example, water delivery requires physical pipes, so a private company would be unlikely to be able to do this at a competing price. Ironically, this isn't unique to public institutions - same problems caused the rise of landline phone monopolies earlier and wired Internet service provider monopolies nowadays.



        Or, in case of some services, the competing private ones cost too much for the poor; and government one is the only available option within near-free price range (as the service is subsidized by government budget).




      • No need to ensure revenue.



        Revenues for public institutions are generated by forcing taxpayers to pay taxes and allocating government revenue by the government out of that. As such, there is no direct impact on revenues from quality of service or product; or productivity[1].



        [1] - one could argue there is an indirect impact in that poor service/product may lead to lower overall economic growth which leads to lower tax revenues down the line. But that is way way too indirect to matter in this case.




      • Employee incomes are not correlated with efficiency.



        If you work better at a private company, you have a chance of being paid more (performance bonuses, pay raises) - see the incentive structure above. At a public institution, they pay is typically very static, with no performance impact on compensation.




      • In some cases, it's impossible or difficult to fire poor performers, even if the institution and its managers would want that.



        First, there are unions. At least in USA, public institutions are far far far more heavily unionized than private ones. Second, there are rules about firing people in public institutions, as the employer is "government".









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      answered 3 hours ago









      user4012

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        Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
        – Jack Of All Trades 234
        36 mins ago














      • 1




        Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
        – Jack Of All Trades 234
        36 mins ago








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      1




      Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
      – Jack Of All Trades 234
      36 mins ago




      Could probably improve this answer by moving your last bullet/paragraph to the top, and applying a large bold font. Parasitic 'employees' that can't be removed for whatever reason, are an enormous drain on efficiency both directly, and indirectly through the negative morale they generate in otherwise productive employees.
      – Jack Of All Trades 234
      36 mins ago











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      Others have noted the issues with incentives and competition, but there is actually another reason, which is dis-economies of scale.



      Back in 1937 economist Ronald Coase asked the deceptively simple question: "why do companies exist?". He reasoned that if the open market was the most efficient way of getting things done then firms (i.e. companies with lots of employees) shouldn't exist; the economy would consist entirely of individual contractors. However firms do exist, and different markets seem to favour different sizes of firms. This led him to set out his "theory of the firm".



      As a company grows it can exploit economies of scale; if you make 100 widgets a week it costs $2/widget, but if you can make 1,000 widgets a week you can reduce the cost to $1.90/widget by increasing automation, using your staff in more specialised roles that require less training, getting bulk discounts on your inputs, and so on. Hence in the widget business companies grow or go out of business; the company making only 100 widgets/week is not going to be able to compete with the one making 1,000/week.



      So why isn't the economy dominated by a single giant monopoly in everything? The answer is that increasing scale brings dis-economies:




      • Coordination becomes more difficult. The guy on the factory floor may realise that screw No. 7 is difficult to get in, but that information doesn't get back to the design department where it could be fixed.


      • New products take longer to bring out because of the work required to retool and reskill the production line.


      • Employees no longer need to work hard to "succeed". Instead they are given targets and can relax once these are achieved. Their managers have no incentive to make these targets a real challenge because then they would be seen as failing too. This disincentive goes all the way from the bottom to the top, which is why so many CEOs pocket big bonuses for lack-lustre performance.


      • Some middle managers also play empire-building games, seek to undermine each other, and generally mess up the efficiency of the company.



      So in any industry there is an optimum point where the economies of scale due to additional growth are matched by the dis-economies. Companies in this industry will tend towards this size.



      Now consider the government. It is probably the biggest organization in the country, doing a vast range of different jobs under very variable circumstances. The result will be huge dis-economies of scale.






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        Others have noted the issues with incentives and competition, but there is actually another reason, which is dis-economies of scale.



        Back in 1937 economist Ronald Coase asked the deceptively simple question: "why do companies exist?". He reasoned that if the open market was the most efficient way of getting things done then firms (i.e. companies with lots of employees) shouldn't exist; the economy would consist entirely of individual contractors. However firms do exist, and different markets seem to favour different sizes of firms. This led him to set out his "theory of the firm".



        As a company grows it can exploit economies of scale; if you make 100 widgets a week it costs $2/widget, but if you can make 1,000 widgets a week you can reduce the cost to $1.90/widget by increasing automation, using your staff in more specialised roles that require less training, getting bulk discounts on your inputs, and so on. Hence in the widget business companies grow or go out of business; the company making only 100 widgets/week is not going to be able to compete with the one making 1,000/week.



        So why isn't the economy dominated by a single giant monopoly in everything? The answer is that increasing scale brings dis-economies:




        • Coordination becomes more difficult. The guy on the factory floor may realise that screw No. 7 is difficult to get in, but that information doesn't get back to the design department where it could be fixed.


        • New products take longer to bring out because of the work required to retool and reskill the production line.


        • Employees no longer need to work hard to "succeed". Instead they are given targets and can relax once these are achieved. Their managers have no incentive to make these targets a real challenge because then they would be seen as failing too. This disincentive goes all the way from the bottom to the top, which is why so many CEOs pocket big bonuses for lack-lustre performance.


        • Some middle managers also play empire-building games, seek to undermine each other, and generally mess up the efficiency of the company.



        So in any industry there is an optimum point where the economies of scale due to additional growth are matched by the dis-economies. Companies in this industry will tend towards this size.



        Now consider the government. It is probably the biggest organization in the country, doing a vast range of different jobs under very variable circumstances. The result will be huge dis-economies of scale.






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          Others have noted the issues with incentives and competition, but there is actually another reason, which is dis-economies of scale.



          Back in 1937 economist Ronald Coase asked the deceptively simple question: "why do companies exist?". He reasoned that if the open market was the most efficient way of getting things done then firms (i.e. companies with lots of employees) shouldn't exist; the economy would consist entirely of individual contractors. However firms do exist, and different markets seem to favour different sizes of firms. This led him to set out his "theory of the firm".



          As a company grows it can exploit economies of scale; if you make 100 widgets a week it costs $2/widget, but if you can make 1,000 widgets a week you can reduce the cost to $1.90/widget by increasing automation, using your staff in more specialised roles that require less training, getting bulk discounts on your inputs, and so on. Hence in the widget business companies grow or go out of business; the company making only 100 widgets/week is not going to be able to compete with the one making 1,000/week.



          So why isn't the economy dominated by a single giant monopoly in everything? The answer is that increasing scale brings dis-economies:




          • Coordination becomes more difficult. The guy on the factory floor may realise that screw No. 7 is difficult to get in, but that information doesn't get back to the design department where it could be fixed.


          • New products take longer to bring out because of the work required to retool and reskill the production line.


          • Employees no longer need to work hard to "succeed". Instead they are given targets and can relax once these are achieved. Their managers have no incentive to make these targets a real challenge because then they would be seen as failing too. This disincentive goes all the way from the bottom to the top, which is why so many CEOs pocket big bonuses for lack-lustre performance.


          • Some middle managers also play empire-building games, seek to undermine each other, and generally mess up the efficiency of the company.



          So in any industry there is an optimum point where the economies of scale due to additional growth are matched by the dis-economies. Companies in this industry will tend towards this size.



          Now consider the government. It is probably the biggest organization in the country, doing a vast range of different jobs under very variable circumstances. The result will be huge dis-economies of scale.






          share|improve this answer












          Others have noted the issues with incentives and competition, but there is actually another reason, which is dis-economies of scale.



          Back in 1937 economist Ronald Coase asked the deceptively simple question: "why do companies exist?". He reasoned that if the open market was the most efficient way of getting things done then firms (i.e. companies with lots of employees) shouldn't exist; the economy would consist entirely of individual contractors. However firms do exist, and different markets seem to favour different sizes of firms. This led him to set out his "theory of the firm".



          As a company grows it can exploit economies of scale; if you make 100 widgets a week it costs $2/widget, but if you can make 1,000 widgets a week you can reduce the cost to $1.90/widget by increasing automation, using your staff in more specialised roles that require less training, getting bulk discounts on your inputs, and so on. Hence in the widget business companies grow or go out of business; the company making only 100 widgets/week is not going to be able to compete with the one making 1,000/week.



          So why isn't the economy dominated by a single giant monopoly in everything? The answer is that increasing scale brings dis-economies:




          • Coordination becomes more difficult. The guy on the factory floor may realise that screw No. 7 is difficult to get in, but that information doesn't get back to the design department where it could be fixed.


          • New products take longer to bring out because of the work required to retool and reskill the production line.


          • Employees no longer need to work hard to "succeed". Instead they are given targets and can relax once these are achieved. Their managers have no incentive to make these targets a real challenge because then they would be seen as failing too. This disincentive goes all the way from the bottom to the top, which is why so many CEOs pocket big bonuses for lack-lustre performance.


          • Some middle managers also play empire-building games, seek to undermine each other, and generally mess up the efficiency of the company.



          So in any industry there is an optimum point where the economies of scale due to additional growth are matched by the dis-economies. Companies in this industry will tend towards this size.



          Now consider the government. It is probably the biggest organization in the country, doing a vast range of different jobs under very variable circumstances. The result will be huge dis-economies of scale.







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          answered 1 hour ago









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              Public institutions are inefficient because they are removed from the natural market place.
              They don't have any competition. Private businesses must be efficient to succeed in a free enterprise market economy. When you have a monopoly on any good or service there's zero motivating factors to increase efficiency.
              Also add the bureaucratic attitude that all government agencies inherently have, which is a need and desire to spend all allocated funds or risk a reduction in those funds in the following year; combined with a tenor based, versus a productivity based, pay scale and you have a tasty recipe for low productivity.






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                While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
                – Philipp
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                @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
                – user4012
                3 hours ago






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                Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
                – Aporter
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              • @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
                – Philipp
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                @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
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              Public institutions are inefficient because they are removed from the natural market place.
              They don't have any competition. Private businesses must be efficient to succeed in a free enterprise market economy. When you have a monopoly on any good or service there's zero motivating factors to increase efficiency.
              Also add the bureaucratic attitude that all government agencies inherently have, which is a need and desire to spend all allocated funds or risk a reduction in those funds in the following year; combined with a tenor based, versus a productivity based, pay scale and you have a tasty recipe for low productivity.






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                While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
                – Philipp
                3 hours ago








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                @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
                – user4012
                3 hours ago






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                Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
                – Aporter
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              • @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
                – Philipp
                3 hours ago








              • 1




                @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
                – Aporter
                3 hours ago














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              Public institutions are inefficient because they are removed from the natural market place.
              They don't have any competition. Private businesses must be efficient to succeed in a free enterprise market economy. When you have a monopoly on any good or service there's zero motivating factors to increase efficiency.
              Also add the bureaucratic attitude that all government agencies inherently have, which is a need and desire to spend all allocated funds or risk a reduction in those funds in the following year; combined with a tenor based, versus a productivity based, pay scale and you have a tasty recipe for low productivity.






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              Public institutions are inefficient because they are removed from the natural market place.
              They don't have any competition. Private businesses must be efficient to succeed in a free enterprise market economy. When you have a monopoly on any good or service there's zero motivating factors to increase efficiency.
              Also add the bureaucratic attitude that all government agencies inherently have, which is a need and desire to spend all allocated funds or risk a reduction in those funds in the following year; combined with a tenor based, versus a productivity based, pay scale and you have a tasty recipe for low productivity.







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              • 2




                While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
                – Philipp
                3 hours ago








              • 1




                @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
                – user4012
                3 hours ago






              • 1




                Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
                – Aporter
                3 hours ago










              • @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
                – Philipp
                3 hours ago








              • 1




                @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
                – Aporter
                3 hours ago














              • 2




                While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
                – Philipp
                3 hours ago








              • 1




                @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
                – user4012
                3 hours ago






              • 1




                Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
                – Aporter
                3 hours ago










              • @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
                – Philipp
                3 hours ago








              • 1




                @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
                – Aporter
                3 hours ago








              2




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              While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
              – Philipp
              3 hours ago






              While there is some truth in this, it is a bit oversimplified to claim that there are zero motivating factors to increase efficiency. Public services are overseen by politicians who are accountable to their constituents and have to allocate a budget. They do exert pressure on the civil service system to work more efficiently, albeit usually not to the extend profit-oriented shareholders would.
              – Philipp
              3 hours ago






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              1




              @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
              – user4012
              3 hours ago




              @Philipp - I would like even a single example of a politician losing their job over inefficient civil service offering.
              – user4012
              3 hours ago




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              Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
              – Aporter
              3 hours ago




              Really? When was the last time you heard an elected representative run on the issue of increasing the efficiency of say the Post Office, or any other government operation or cast a ballot on that sort of an issue? I never have. In fact many of the bureaucratic agencies now write regulations, that Congress has no oversight on, despite those regulations having the force of law behind them. Nowadays most Congressmen don't even read bills before they vote on them.
              – Aporter
              3 hours ago












              @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
              – Philipp
              3 hours ago






              @user4012 I am actually working in a company which provides IT services to public service organizations and I have witnessed multiple cases of politicians pressuring the public administration system to work more efficiently. It's the reason we are in business. It is true that improving the public administration system in itself is rarely an issue which decides elections. But an effective public administration system is often required to fulfill many actual election promises, so there is an incentive for politicians to care about it.
              – Philipp
              3 hours ago






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              1




              @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
              – Aporter
              3 hours ago




              @Philipp you do realize that the reason that the private company that you work for is contracted with these public service organizations, is because your private company is far more efficient at providing IT services, than the government organizations could ever be for themselves. You do understand this, right?
              – Aporter
              3 hours ago











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              I've worked at both private and public institutions. Neither seem significantly more or less efficient than the other - there's tons of waste in private institutions but people don't seem to care about that as much.






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                I've worked at both private and public institutions. Neither seem significantly more or less efficient than the other - there's tons of waste in private institutions but people don't seem to care about that as much.






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                  I've worked at both private and public institutions. Neither seem significantly more or less efficient than the other - there's tons of waste in private institutions but people don't seem to care about that as much.






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                  I've worked at both private and public institutions. Neither seem significantly more or less efficient than the other - there's tons of waste in private institutions but people don't seem to care about that as much.







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                      Public institutions are by definition inefficient. Efficiency is an economic term describing profitability. Public institutions are definitionally irrational. Rational market agents maximise profits. Definitionally public institutions reflect the State’s will. The State’s will is not profit maximisation: minimally the state must maintain a monopoly of force which is in contradiction to profit maximisation.



                      Assuming a democratic state where institutions perfectly reflect the public will, workplace democracy is incompatible with this. Sectional wills aren’t equivalent to the total will. Local democracies aren’t identical with the democratic state.



                      Would workplace democracy in an efficient workplace reduce inequality? Is workplace democracy profit maximisation?



                      I believe you’re gesturing at post-capitalist economic relations and the question of calculating the extent to which chosen economics (“planning” “workplace democracy”) produces the desired quantity of the good things in life with the least objectionable labour.






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                        Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
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                      Public institutions are by definition inefficient. Efficiency is an economic term describing profitability. Public institutions are definitionally irrational. Rational market agents maximise profits. Definitionally public institutions reflect the State’s will. The State’s will is not profit maximisation: minimally the state must maintain a monopoly of force which is in contradiction to profit maximisation.



                      Assuming a democratic state where institutions perfectly reflect the public will, workplace democracy is incompatible with this. Sectional wills aren’t equivalent to the total will. Local democracies aren’t identical with the democratic state.



                      Would workplace democracy in an efficient workplace reduce inequality? Is workplace democracy profit maximisation?



                      I believe you’re gesturing at post-capitalist economic relations and the question of calculating the extent to which chosen economics (“planning” “workplace democracy”) produces the desired quantity of the good things in life with the least objectionable labour.






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                        Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
                        – Erik
                        8 hours ago














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                      Public institutions are by definition inefficient. Efficiency is an economic term describing profitability. Public institutions are definitionally irrational. Rational market agents maximise profits. Definitionally public institutions reflect the State’s will. The State’s will is not profit maximisation: minimally the state must maintain a monopoly of force which is in contradiction to profit maximisation.



                      Assuming a democratic state where institutions perfectly reflect the public will, workplace democracy is incompatible with this. Sectional wills aren’t equivalent to the total will. Local democracies aren’t identical with the democratic state.



                      Would workplace democracy in an efficient workplace reduce inequality? Is workplace democracy profit maximisation?



                      I believe you’re gesturing at post-capitalist economic relations and the question of calculating the extent to which chosen economics (“planning” “workplace democracy”) produces the desired quantity of the good things in life with the least objectionable labour.






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                      Public institutions are by definition inefficient. Efficiency is an economic term describing profitability. Public institutions are definitionally irrational. Rational market agents maximise profits. Definitionally public institutions reflect the State’s will. The State’s will is not profit maximisation: minimally the state must maintain a monopoly of force which is in contradiction to profit maximisation.



                      Assuming a democratic state where institutions perfectly reflect the public will, workplace democracy is incompatible with this. Sectional wills aren’t equivalent to the total will. Local democracies aren’t identical with the democratic state.



                      Would workplace democracy in an efficient workplace reduce inequality? Is workplace democracy profit maximisation?



                      I believe you’re gesturing at post-capitalist economic relations and the question of calculating the extent to which chosen economics (“planning” “workplace democracy”) produces the desired quantity of the good things in life with the least objectionable labour.







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                        Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
                        – Erik
                        8 hours ago














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                        Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
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                        8 hours ago








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                      Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
                      – Erik
                      8 hours ago




                      Efficiency is a much broader term that just "describing profitability" and that doesn't seem like the one the OP was referring to.
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