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Consider this simple sentence that is not based on real-life experience:




During the concert, Mike shouted until his voice was heard by the
singer.




I am also confused by this type of sentence, should I use was heard or is heard? I am reported a past event, but the word until feels like I have to use the present tense. In this scenario, Mike shouted and the singer heard. Another example:




"Subjects needed information from the linear displacement of the limbs
when force was applied and xxxanother cue"




Again, should it be is or was? I am reporting force that the subjects applied, however, it feels like the term when changes the was to is.










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  • I would say: During the concert, Mike was shouting until his voice was heard by the singer.
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Consider this simple sentence that is not based on real-life experience:




During the concert, Mike shouted until his voice was heard by the
singer.




I am also confused by this type of sentence, should I use was heard or is heard? I am reported a past event, but the word until feels like I have to use the present tense. In this scenario, Mike shouted and the singer heard. Another example:




"Subjects needed information from the linear displacement of the limbs
when force was applied and xxxanother cue"




Again, should it be is or was? I am reporting force that the subjects applied, however, it feels like the term when changes the was to is.










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  • I would say: During the concert, Mike was shouting until his voice was heard by the singer.
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Consider this simple sentence that is not based on real-life experience:




During the concert, Mike shouted until his voice was heard by the
singer.




I am also confused by this type of sentence, should I use was heard or is heard? I am reported a past event, but the word until feels like I have to use the present tense. In this scenario, Mike shouted and the singer heard. Another example:




"Subjects needed information from the linear displacement of the limbs
when force was applied and xxxanother cue"




Again, should it be is or was? I am reporting force that the subjects applied, however, it feels like the term when changes the was to is.










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Consider this simple sentence that is not based on real-life experience:




During the concert, Mike shouted until his voice was heard by the
singer.




I am also confused by this type of sentence, should I use was heard or is heard? I am reported a past event, but the word until feels like I have to use the present tense. In this scenario, Mike shouted and the singer heard. Another example:




"Subjects needed information from the linear displacement of the limbs
when force was applied and xxxanother cue"




Again, should it be is or was? I am reporting force that the subjects applied, however, it feels like the term when changes the was to is.







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  • I would say: During the concert, Mike was shouting until his voice was heard by the singer.
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    Dec 13 at 4:27


















  • I would say: During the concert, Mike was shouting until his voice was heard by the singer.
    – user307254
    Dec 13 at 4:27
















I would say: During the concert, Mike was shouting until his voice was heard by the singer.
– user307254
Dec 13 at 4:27




I would say: During the concert, Mike was shouting until his voice was heard by the singer.
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It's totally fine to use 'was' in this situation because the entire event has happened in the past. For example you would say "On that infamous day, war was declared" as using 'is declared' wouldn't make sense in this context. It's only really when the event 'is happening' or 'is going to happen' where you use "is", as in present or future tense.






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    "war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
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  • See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
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    Dec 13 at 9:21











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It's totally fine to use 'was' in this situation because the entire event has happened in the past. For example you would say "On that infamous day, war was declared" as using 'is declared' wouldn't make sense in this context. It's only really when the event 'is happening' or 'is going to happen' where you use "is", as in present or future tense.






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    "war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
    – Barmar
    Dec 13 at 0:49










  • See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
    – Kris
    Dec 13 at 9:21















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It's totally fine to use 'was' in this situation because the entire event has happened in the past. For example you would say "On that infamous day, war was declared" as using 'is declared' wouldn't make sense in this context. It's only really when the event 'is happening' or 'is going to happen' where you use "is", as in present or future tense.






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    "war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
    – Barmar
    Dec 13 at 0:49










  • See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
    – Kris
    Dec 13 at 9:21













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It's totally fine to use 'was' in this situation because the entire event has happened in the past. For example you would say "On that infamous day, war was declared" as using 'is declared' wouldn't make sense in this context. It's only really when the event 'is happening' or 'is going to happen' where you use "is", as in present or future tense.






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It's totally fine to use 'was' in this situation because the entire event has happened in the past. For example you would say "On that infamous day, war was declared" as using 'is declared' wouldn't make sense in this context. It's only really when the event 'is happening' or 'is going to happen' where you use "is", as in present or future tense.







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    "war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
    – Barmar
    Dec 13 at 0:49










  • See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
    – Kris
    Dec 13 at 9:21














  • 2




    "war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
    – Barmar
    Dec 13 at 0:49










  • See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
    – Kris
    Dec 13 at 9:21








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"war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
– Barmar
Dec 13 at 0:49




"war were declared" should be "war was declared", since "were" is plural.
– Barmar
Dec 13 at 0:49












See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:21




See also: English Language Learners Good Luck.
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:21


















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