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Need help converting this sentence to passive voice:-




The students will assemble in the hall.




I think it should be:-



The hall will be assembled by the students.


But it sounds like students are building the hall by putting together some pieces.



Should I change it to assembled in by the students? Or something else?










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    Your teacher is having a joke. The students will assemble in the hall is an intransitive sentence. Passive can only be applied to a transitive sentence. Therefore there is no passive transform for that sentence.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 17 at 16:39






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    @JohnLawler What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 16:53












  • @tchrist non-native speaker here, helping a child with his homework. Your downtown example conversion from active to passive looks correct to me. I know it sounds bad, but since it is a homework, it just needs to be "correct". I don't understand what you are trying to say to John though. Is he right or wrong?
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:11










  • @Kartik John is right: you can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have an ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject. ¶ Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 17:14












  • @tchrist thank you, I'll read more about every concept you mentioned. Please don't delete your comment. :)
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:21
















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Need help converting this sentence to passive voice:-




The students will assemble in the hall.




I think it should be:-



The hall will be assembled by the students.


But it sounds like students are building the hall by putting together some pieces.



Should I change it to assembled in by the students? Or something else?










share|improve this question


















  • 3




    Your teacher is having a joke. The students will assemble in the hall is an intransitive sentence. Passive can only be applied to a transitive sentence. Therefore there is no passive transform for that sentence.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 17 at 16:39






  • 1




    @JohnLawler What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 16:53












  • @tchrist non-native speaker here, helping a child with his homework. Your downtown example conversion from active to passive looks correct to me. I know it sounds bad, but since it is a homework, it just needs to be "correct". I don't understand what you are trying to say to John though. Is he right or wrong?
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:11










  • @Kartik John is right: you can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have an ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject. ¶ Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 17:14












  • @tchrist thank you, I'll read more about every concept you mentioned. Please don't delete your comment. :)
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:21














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Need help converting this sentence to passive voice:-




The students will assemble in the hall.




I think it should be:-



The hall will be assembled by the students.


But it sounds like students are building the hall by putting together some pieces.



Should I change it to assembled in by the students? Or something else?










share|improve this question













Need help converting this sentence to passive voice:-




The students will assemble in the hall.




I think it should be:-



The hall will be assembled by the students.


But it sounds like students are building the hall by putting together some pieces.



Should I change it to assembled in by the students? Or something else?







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    Your teacher is having a joke. The students will assemble in the hall is an intransitive sentence. Passive can only be applied to a transitive sentence. Therefore there is no passive transform for that sentence.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 17 at 16:39






  • 1




    @JohnLawler What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 16:53












  • @tchrist non-native speaker here, helping a child with his homework. Your downtown example conversion from active to passive looks correct to me. I know it sounds bad, but since it is a homework, it just needs to be "correct". I don't understand what you are trying to say to John though. Is he right or wrong?
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:11










  • @Kartik John is right: you can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have an ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject. ¶ Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 17:14












  • @tchrist thank you, I'll read more about every concept you mentioned. Please don't delete your comment. :)
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:21














  • 3




    Your teacher is having a joke. The students will assemble in the hall is an intransitive sentence. Passive can only be applied to a transitive sentence. Therefore there is no passive transform for that sentence.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 17 at 16:39






  • 1




    @JohnLawler What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 16:53












  • @tchrist non-native speaker here, helping a child with his homework. Your downtown example conversion from active to passive looks correct to me. I know it sounds bad, but since it is a homework, it just needs to be "correct". I don't understand what you are trying to say to John though. Is he right or wrong?
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:11










  • @Kartik John is right: you can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have an ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject. ¶ Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.
    – tchrist
    Dec 17 at 17:14












  • @tchrist thank you, I'll read more about every concept you mentioned. Please don't delete your comment. :)
    – Kartik
    Dec 17 at 17:21








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Your teacher is having a joke. The students will assemble in the hall is an intransitive sentence. Passive can only be applied to a transitive sentence. Therefore there is no passive transform for that sentence.
– John Lawler
Dec 17 at 16:39




Your teacher is having a joke. The students will assemble in the hall is an intransitive sentence. Passive can only be applied to a transitive sentence. Therefore there is no passive transform for that sentence.
– John Lawler
Dec 17 at 16:39




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@JohnLawler What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.
– tchrist
Dec 17 at 16:53






@JohnLawler What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.
– tchrist
Dec 17 at 16:53














@tchrist non-native speaker here, helping a child with his homework. Your downtown example conversion from active to passive looks correct to me. I know it sounds bad, but since it is a homework, it just needs to be "correct". I don't understand what you are trying to say to John though. Is he right or wrong?
– Kartik
Dec 17 at 17:11




@tchrist non-native speaker here, helping a child with his homework. Your downtown example conversion from active to passive looks correct to me. I know it sounds bad, but since it is a homework, it just needs to be "correct". I don't understand what you are trying to say to John though. Is he right or wrong?
– Kartik
Dec 17 at 17:11












@Kartik John is right: you can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have an ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject. ¶ Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.
– tchrist
Dec 17 at 17:14






@Kartik John is right: you can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have an ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject. ¶ Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.
– tchrist
Dec 17 at 17:14














@tchrist thank you, I'll read more about every concept you mentioned. Please don't delete your comment. :)
– Kartik
Dec 17 at 17:21




@tchrist thank you, I'll read more about every concept you mentioned. Please don't delete your comment. :)
– Kartik
Dec 17 at 17:21










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I in comments wrote to John Lawler:




What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.




And then to the asker:




You can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have a ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject.



Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.







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    According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary: assemble 
    transitive verb
    to bring together (as in a particular place or for a particular purpose)
    They assembled a team of experts to solve the problem.
    So, the passive sentence is:
    'The students will be assembled in the hall.'
    As about the logical subject, it is omitted here.






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      You are correct,




      The hall will be assembled by the students.




      indicates that the students are building or constructing the hall in some way.



      Your second suggestion,




      The hall will be assembled in by the students.




      is technically correct but sounds quite strange to me. I'm not sure what you need this for, but you might consider substituting a synonym for "assembled." It might sound more natural as something like




      The hall will be filled by the students.



      The hall will be the location of the student assembly.







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      • It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
        – Ben Voigt
        Dec 18 at 1:47











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      I in comments wrote to John Lawler:




      What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.




      And then to the asker:




      You can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have a ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject.



      Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.







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        I in comments wrote to John Lawler:




        What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.




        And then to the asker:




        You can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have a ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject.



        Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.







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          I in comments wrote to John Lawler:




          What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.




          And then to the asker:




          You can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have a ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject.



          Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.







          share|improve this answer












          I in comments wrote to John Lawler:




          What, you don’t like “The stu­dents will go down­town for lunch” be­com­ing “Down­town will be gone to by the stu­dents for lunch” much, eh? :-) Be­cause such abom­i­na­tions do crop up from not-na­tive speak­ers from time to time, I sus­pect no­body ever let them in on the joke in the first place.




          And then to the asker:




          You can't ever do pas­sive in­ver­sion on in­tran­si­tive verbs, in­clud­ing both yours and mine. If what I wrote sounds right to you, some­body has trained you wrong be­cause it’s com­pletely un­gram­mat­i­cal in English. You must have a ­tran­si­tive verb with a di­rect ob­ject to use pas­sive in­ver­sion on so that you can in­vert sub­ject and ob­ject. In­tran­si­tive verbs lack an ob­ject to use for the sub­ject.



          Also, home­work is a mass noun not a count noun, so you can never say *a home­work.








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              According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary: assemble 
              transitive verb
              to bring together (as in a particular place or for a particular purpose)
              They assembled a team of experts to solve the problem.
              So, the passive sentence is:
              'The students will be assembled in the hall.'
              As about the logical subject, it is omitted here.






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                According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary: assemble 
                transitive verb
                to bring together (as in a particular place or for a particular purpose)
                They assembled a team of experts to solve the problem.
                So, the passive sentence is:
                'The students will be assembled in the hall.'
                As about the logical subject, it is omitted here.






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                  According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary: assemble 
                  transitive verb
                  to bring together (as in a particular place or for a particular purpose)
                  They assembled a team of experts to solve the problem.
                  So, the passive sentence is:
                  'The students will be assembled in the hall.'
                  As about the logical subject, it is omitted here.






                  share|improve this answer












                  According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary: assemble 
                  transitive verb
                  to bring together (as in a particular place or for a particular purpose)
                  They assembled a team of experts to solve the problem.
                  So, the passive sentence is:
                  'The students will be assembled in the hall.'
                  As about the logical subject, it is omitted here.







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                      You are correct,




                      The hall will be assembled by the students.




                      indicates that the students are building or constructing the hall in some way.



                      Your second suggestion,




                      The hall will be assembled in by the students.




                      is technically correct but sounds quite strange to me. I'm not sure what you need this for, but you might consider substituting a synonym for "assembled." It might sound more natural as something like




                      The hall will be filled by the students.



                      The hall will be the location of the student assembly.







                      share|improve this answer





















                      • It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
                        – Ben Voigt
                        Dec 18 at 1:47
















                      2














                      You are correct,




                      The hall will be assembled by the students.




                      indicates that the students are building or constructing the hall in some way.



                      Your second suggestion,




                      The hall will be assembled in by the students.




                      is technically correct but sounds quite strange to me. I'm not sure what you need this for, but you might consider substituting a synonym for "assembled." It might sound more natural as something like




                      The hall will be filled by the students.



                      The hall will be the location of the student assembly.







                      share|improve this answer





















                      • It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
                        – Ben Voigt
                        Dec 18 at 1:47














                      2












                      2








                      2






                      You are correct,




                      The hall will be assembled by the students.




                      indicates that the students are building or constructing the hall in some way.



                      Your second suggestion,




                      The hall will be assembled in by the students.




                      is technically correct but sounds quite strange to me. I'm not sure what you need this for, but you might consider substituting a synonym for "assembled." It might sound more natural as something like




                      The hall will be filled by the students.



                      The hall will be the location of the student assembly.







                      share|improve this answer












                      You are correct,




                      The hall will be assembled by the students.




                      indicates that the students are building or constructing the hall in some way.



                      Your second suggestion,




                      The hall will be assembled in by the students.




                      is technically correct but sounds quite strange to me. I'm not sure what you need this for, but you might consider substituting a synonym for "assembled." It might sound more natural as something like




                      The hall will be filled by the students.



                      The hall will be the location of the student assembly.








                      share|improve this answer












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                      • It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
                        – Ben Voigt
                        Dec 18 at 1:47


















                      • It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
                        – Ben Voigt
                        Dec 18 at 1:47
















                      It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
                      – Ben Voigt
                      Dec 18 at 1:47




                      It's not technically correct; it has no subject at all, not even an implied one.
                      – Ben Voigt
                      Dec 18 at 1:47


















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