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If someone is studying something for a longer period, concentrated, focused: is he rather a "persistent learner" (which yields more hits at google) or a "persevering learner" (which seem to be used more often in bible references and on religious websites)?



According to @Thursagen's answer, persevering would be the positive notion.






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If someone is studying something for a longer period, concentrated, focused: is he rather a "persistent learner" (which yields more hits at google) or a "persevering learner" (which seem to be used more often in bible references and on religious websites)?



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If someone is studying something for a longer period, concentrated, focused: is he rather a "persistent learner" (which yields more hits at google) or a "persevering learner" (which seem to be used more often in bible references and on religious websites)?



According to @Thursagen's answer, persevering would be the positive notion.






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If someone is studying something for a longer period, concentrated, focused: is he rather a "persistent learner" (which yields more hits at google) or a "persevering learner" (which seem to be used more often in bible references and on religious websites)?



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I'd say a diligent, or hardworking student.






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    Somebody seems to have coined the phrase 'persistent learner', but persistent is normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable, like a child pestering a parent for sweets, or in a phrase like 'persistent cough'.






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    • So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
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      I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
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    • -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
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    Between the two options presented, "persistent learner" sounds more natural to me but has some slight connotations that make it less than ideal. In particular, persistence and perseverance when applied to people typically mean "continuing despite adversity". In other words, rather than generally being "somebody who works hard at studying" a persistent learner is specifically "somebody who has a hard time studying but does so anyway", or "somebody who spends a lot of time studying because they need more time to learn the same amount".



    If you want to describe someone who studies a lot or works hard at it, the best adjective would be "studious". "Studious learner" is a bit redundant though, if you're combining with a noun like "learner" that already implies that studying is being done then the adjective "diligent" is better, with the best phrase I can think of being "diligent student" assuming that the person is in fact a student.






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              Somebody seems to have coined the phrase 'persistent learner', but persistent is normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable, like a child pestering a parent for sweets, or in a phrase like 'persistent cough'.






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              • So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
                – kalle
                4 hours ago






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                I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
                – bxk21
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              • -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
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              Somebody seems to have coined the phrase 'persistent learner', but persistent is normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable, like a child pestering a parent for sweets, or in a phrase like 'persistent cough'.






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              • So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
                – kalle
                4 hours ago






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                I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
                – bxk21
                3 hours ago












              • -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
                – scohe001
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              Somebody seems to have coined the phrase 'persistent learner', but persistent is normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable, like a child pestering a parent for sweets, or in a phrase like 'persistent cough'.






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              Somebody seems to have coined the phrase 'persistent learner', but persistent is normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable, like a child pestering a parent for sweets, or in a phrase like 'persistent cough'.







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              • So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
                – kalle
                4 hours ago






              • 2




                I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
                – bxk21
                3 hours ago












              • -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
                – scohe001
                1 hour ago




















              • So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
                – kalle
                4 hours ago






              • 2




                I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
                – bxk21
                3 hours ago












              • -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
                – scohe001
                1 hour ago


















              So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
              – kalle
              4 hours ago




              So 'persistent learner' can be used in a positive way, even though 'persistent' per se is usually rather negative?
              – kalle
              4 hours ago




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              I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
              – bxk21
              3 hours ago






              I would have to disagree your interpretation of 'persistent'. As far as I can tell there's no negative implication to what the person is attempting.
              – bxk21
              3 hours ago














              -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
              – scohe001
              1 hour ago






              -1 I agree with @bxk21 on this one--your definition of persistent being "normally used when someone keeps on doing something undesirable" is simply untrue. Persistent only means that someone is working against opposition, setbacks or failure. Whether that opposition be deserved or not has nothing to do with the word. Perhaps you could edit the answer to include why you believe what you say to be true?
              – scohe001
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              Between the two options presented, "persistent learner" sounds more natural to me but has some slight connotations that make it less than ideal. In particular, persistence and perseverance when applied to people typically mean "continuing despite adversity". In other words, rather than generally being "somebody who works hard at studying" a persistent learner is specifically "somebody who has a hard time studying but does so anyway", or "somebody who spends a lot of time studying because they need more time to learn the same amount".



              If you want to describe someone who studies a lot or works hard at it, the best adjective would be "studious". "Studious learner" is a bit redundant though, if you're combining with a noun like "learner" that already implies that studying is being done then the adjective "diligent" is better, with the best phrase I can think of being "diligent student" assuming that the person is in fact a student.






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                Between the two options presented, "persistent learner" sounds more natural to me but has some slight connotations that make it less than ideal. In particular, persistence and perseverance when applied to people typically mean "continuing despite adversity". In other words, rather than generally being "somebody who works hard at studying" a persistent learner is specifically "somebody who has a hard time studying but does so anyway", or "somebody who spends a lot of time studying because they need more time to learn the same amount".



                If you want to describe someone who studies a lot or works hard at it, the best adjective would be "studious". "Studious learner" is a bit redundant though, if you're combining with a noun like "learner" that already implies that studying is being done then the adjective "diligent" is better, with the best phrase I can think of being "diligent student" assuming that the person is in fact a student.






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                  Between the two options presented, "persistent learner" sounds more natural to me but has some slight connotations that make it less than ideal. In particular, persistence and perseverance when applied to people typically mean "continuing despite adversity". In other words, rather than generally being "somebody who works hard at studying" a persistent learner is specifically "somebody who has a hard time studying but does so anyway", or "somebody who spends a lot of time studying because they need more time to learn the same amount".



                  If you want to describe someone who studies a lot or works hard at it, the best adjective would be "studious". "Studious learner" is a bit redundant though, if you're combining with a noun like "learner" that already implies that studying is being done then the adjective "diligent" is better, with the best phrase I can think of being "diligent student" assuming that the person is in fact a student.






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                  Between the two options presented, "persistent learner" sounds more natural to me but has some slight connotations that make it less than ideal. In particular, persistence and perseverance when applied to people typically mean "continuing despite adversity". In other words, rather than generally being "somebody who works hard at studying" a persistent learner is specifically "somebody who has a hard time studying but does so anyway", or "somebody who spends a lot of time studying because they need more time to learn the same amount".



                  If you want to describe someone who studies a lot or works hard at it, the best adjective would be "studious". "Studious learner" is a bit redundant though, if you're combining with a noun like "learner" that already implies that studying is being done then the adjective "diligent" is better, with the best phrase I can think of being "diligent student" assuming that the person is in fact a student.







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