How could Antonin Dolohov kill Remus Lupin if his memory was wiped?
As we know, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1, Antonin Dolohov and Thorfinn Rowle attacked Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, and Ron Weasley at Tottenham Court Road, but they were defeated and their memory was wiped by Memory Charm.
According to this, Remus Lupin has been killed by the Antonin Dolohov during the Battle of Hogwarts - so how did he get back his memory and skills?
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As we know, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1, Antonin Dolohov and Thorfinn Rowle attacked Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, and Ron Weasley at Tottenham Court Road, but they were defeated and their memory was wiped by Memory Charm.
According to this, Remus Lupin has been killed by the Antonin Dolohov during the Battle of Hogwarts - so how did he get back his memory and skills?
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Maybe just that event got erased? (Pretty sloppy on Hermione's part, but who knows)
– Jenayah
2 hours ago
I doubt you'll get a better answer than "He got better, go figure".
– Valorum
1 hour ago
@FilipKočica Obliviate can erase part of your memory. Presumably Hermione's parents didn't forget how to speak English, cure teeth, etc. Maybe Dolohov was just made to forget their encounter with the trio, but he remembered being a Death Eater, how to duel etc. (it'd be sloppy from Hermione not to do a full wipe and clear one enemy off the battlefield in the process, though)
– Jenayah
1 hour ago
@Jenayah I see, thanks.
– Filip Kočica
52 mins ago
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As we know, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1, Antonin Dolohov and Thorfinn Rowle attacked Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, and Ron Weasley at Tottenham Court Road, but they were defeated and their memory was wiped by Memory Charm.
According to this, Remus Lupin has been killed by the Antonin Dolohov during the Battle of Hogwarts - so how did he get back his memory and skills?
harry-potter
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As we know, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1, Antonin Dolohov and Thorfinn Rowle attacked Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, and Ron Weasley at Tottenham Court Road, but they were defeated and their memory was wiped by Memory Charm.
According to this, Remus Lupin has been killed by the Antonin Dolohov during the Battle of Hogwarts - so how did he get back his memory and skills?
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Maybe just that event got erased? (Pretty sloppy on Hermione's part, but who knows)
– Jenayah
2 hours ago
I doubt you'll get a better answer than "He got better, go figure".
– Valorum
1 hour ago
@FilipKočica Obliviate can erase part of your memory. Presumably Hermione's parents didn't forget how to speak English, cure teeth, etc. Maybe Dolohov was just made to forget their encounter with the trio, but he remembered being a Death Eater, how to duel etc. (it'd be sloppy from Hermione not to do a full wipe and clear one enemy off the battlefield in the process, though)
– Jenayah
1 hour ago
@Jenayah I see, thanks.
– Filip Kočica
52 mins ago
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1
Maybe just that event got erased? (Pretty sloppy on Hermione's part, but who knows)
– Jenayah
2 hours ago
I doubt you'll get a better answer than "He got better, go figure".
– Valorum
1 hour ago
@FilipKočica Obliviate can erase part of your memory. Presumably Hermione's parents didn't forget how to speak English, cure teeth, etc. Maybe Dolohov was just made to forget their encounter with the trio, but he remembered being a Death Eater, how to duel etc. (it'd be sloppy from Hermione not to do a full wipe and clear one enemy off the battlefield in the process, though)
– Jenayah
1 hour ago
@Jenayah I see, thanks.
– Filip Kočica
52 mins ago
1
1
Maybe just that event got erased? (Pretty sloppy on Hermione's part, but who knows)
– Jenayah
2 hours ago
Maybe just that event got erased? (Pretty sloppy on Hermione's part, but who knows)
– Jenayah
2 hours ago
I doubt you'll get a better answer than "He got better, go figure".
– Valorum
1 hour ago
I doubt you'll get a better answer than "He got better, go figure".
– Valorum
1 hour ago
@FilipKočica Obliviate can erase part of your memory. Presumably Hermione's parents didn't forget how to speak English, cure teeth, etc. Maybe Dolohov was just made to forget their encounter with the trio, but he remembered being a Death Eater, how to duel etc. (it'd be sloppy from Hermione not to do a full wipe and clear one enemy off the battlefield in the process, though)
– Jenayah
1 hour ago
@FilipKočica Obliviate can erase part of your memory. Presumably Hermione's parents didn't forget how to speak English, cure teeth, etc. Maybe Dolohov was just made to forget their encounter with the trio, but he remembered being a Death Eater, how to duel etc. (it'd be sloppy from Hermione not to do a full wipe and clear one enemy off the battlefield in the process, though)
– Jenayah
1 hour ago
@Jenayah I see, thanks.
– Filip Kočica
52 mins ago
@Jenayah I see, thanks.
– Filip Kočica
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According to Pottermore, Obliviate is a charm whose purpose is:
To erase, or modify the memory of another
With the affect being:
The recipent will lose a portion (or all) of their memory, depending on how strong the spell is
Since it was Hermoine's first time casting the charm, and her intention was to just erase Dolohov's memory of seeing Harry, she probably didn't erase Dolohov's entire memory (like the backfiring charm did to Gilderoy Lockhart.
In fact, in J.K. Rowling's writing on Pottermore about Illness and Disability, she implies that a properly cast Obliviate charm doesn't create "permanent amensia when she states:
...the consequences of curses or backfiring magic could be serious, permanent or life-threatening. This is the reason that Gilderoy Lockhart, victim of his own mangled Memory Charm, has permanent amnesia.
answered 59 mins ago
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Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
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According to Pottermore, Obliviate is a charm whose purpose is:
To erase, or modify the memory of another
With the affect being:
The recipent will lose a portion (or all) of their memory, depending on how strong the spell is
Since it was Hermoine's first time casting the charm, and her intention was to just erase Dolohov's memory of seeing Harry, she probably didn't erase Dolohov's entire memory (like the backfiring charm did to Gilderoy Lockhart.
In fact, in J.K. Rowling's writing on Pottermore about Illness and Disability, she implies that a properly cast Obliviate charm doesn't create "permanent amensia when she states:
...the consequences of curses or backfiring magic could be serious, permanent or life-threatening. This is the reason that Gilderoy Lockhart, victim of his own mangled Memory Charm, has permanent amnesia.
answered 59 mins ago
Treborcram
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Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
add a comment |
According to Pottermore, Obliviate is a charm whose purpose is:
To erase, or modify the memory of another
With the affect being:
The recipent will lose a portion (or all) of their memory, depending on how strong the spell is
Since it was Hermoine's first time casting the charm, and her intention was to just erase Dolohov's memory of seeing Harry, she probably didn't erase Dolohov's entire memory (like the backfiring charm did to Gilderoy Lockhart.
In fact, in J.K. Rowling's writing on Pottermore about Illness and Disability, she implies that a properly cast Obliviate charm doesn't create "permanent amensia when she states:
...the consequences of curses or backfiring magic could be serious, permanent or life-threatening. This is the reason that Gilderoy Lockhart, victim of his own mangled Memory Charm, has permanent amnesia.
answered 59 mins ago
Treborcram
5,7772331
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Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
add a comment |
According to Pottermore, Obliviate is a charm whose purpose is:
To erase, or modify the memory of another
With the affect being:
The recipent will lose a portion (or all) of their memory, depending on how strong the spell is
Since it was Hermoine's first time casting the charm, and her intention was to just erase Dolohov's memory of seeing Harry, she probably didn't erase Dolohov's entire memory (like the backfiring charm did to Gilderoy Lockhart.
In fact, in J.K. Rowling's writing on Pottermore about Illness and Disability, she implies that a properly cast Obliviate charm doesn't create "permanent amensia when she states:
...the consequences of curses or backfiring magic could be serious, permanent or life-threatening. This is the reason that Gilderoy Lockhart, victim of his own mangled Memory Charm, has permanent amnesia.
answered 59 mins ago
Treborcram
5,7772331
According to Pottermore, Obliviate is a charm whose purpose is:
To erase, or modify the memory of another
With the affect being:
The recipent will lose a portion (or all) of their memory, depending on how strong the spell is
Since it was Hermoine's first time casting the charm, and her intention was to just erase Dolohov's memory of seeing Harry, she probably didn't erase Dolohov's entire memory (like the backfiring charm did to Gilderoy Lockhart.
In fact, in J.K. Rowling's writing on Pottermore about Illness and Disability, she implies that a properly cast Obliviate charm doesn't create "permanent amensia when she states:
...the consequences of curses or backfiring magic could be serious, permanent or life-threatening. This is the reason that Gilderoy Lockhart, victim of his own mangled Memory Charm, has permanent amnesia.
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Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
1
1
Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
Pretty sure it wasn't Hermione's first time casting the charm. Didn't she Obliviate he rparents before that?
– Jenayah
58 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@Jenayah That was actually addressed by JKR, as noted here: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/71922/30726
– BMWurm
51 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
@BMWurm ah, nevermind then!
– Jenayah
50 mins ago
add a comment |
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Maybe just that event got erased? (Pretty sloppy on Hermione's part, but who knows)
– Jenayah
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I doubt you'll get a better answer than "He got better, go figure".
– Valorum
1 hour ago
@FilipKočica Obliviate can erase part of your memory. Presumably Hermione's parents didn't forget how to speak English, cure teeth, etc. Maybe Dolohov was just made to forget their encounter with the trio, but he remembered being a Death Eater, how to duel etc. (it'd be sloppy from Hermione not to do a full wipe and clear one enemy off the battlefield in the process, though)
– Jenayah
1 hour ago
@Jenayah I see, thanks.
– Filip Kočica
52 mins ago