Closest English term for Spanish “merienda”





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The Spanish word merienda is often included in lists of untranslatable words. It originally meant the meal you had around noon between breakfast and dinner, as that meal used to be small compared with the other two. In some parts it is still used with that sense but since the 17th century it is almost always used for the small meal you have between lunch and dinner.



In Spain you usually have lunch around 2:00 PM and dinner around 9:00 PM, so at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve. That small meal is our merienda.



I would like to know if there are or there have been words in English to refer to a similar small meal you have between the main meals. I have looked up the word even in old dictionaries, but I think the translations refer to the old meaning of the word:




  • The Spanish-English dictionary by Richard Percyvall from 1591 translates the word as noonemeate (currently noonmeat), but that seems to be a synonym for lunch.

  • The Spanish-Latin-English dictionary by Iohannis Minshaei from 1617 translates the word as a Bever. That word is not present in the Oxford dictionary but seems to be related to beverage. Etymonline says its meaning could be "a drinking bout".

  • The closest word I can think of is US English snack: "a small amount of food eaten between meals" or "a light meal that is eaten in a hurry or in a casual manner".


So among every word the English language has produced everywhere and at every time, old and new, known or unknown, what would be the closest one to Spanish merienda?










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    As merienda no longer has a definitive meaning, it might be easily translated into English with an English term with an indefinite meaning; tea. Tea is often a small meal taken in the afternoon.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago










  • @J.Taylor indeed! "A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes." You could add that as an answer.
    – Charlie
    2 days ago










  • I'm not sure there is a proper answer here. Instead of translating, one should use the local term. In my mind, explaining merienda is better than trying to translate it.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago






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    as a side note, the term is present also in Italian as merenda but it has survived mainly to refer to mid-morning snack break that children have at primary schools.
    – user240918
    2 days ago










  • @user240918 in Spanish (at least in the area where I live) that mid-morning snack the children have is known as "merendilla" (a small merienda).
    – Charlie
    2 days ago

















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The Spanish word merienda is often included in lists of untranslatable words. It originally meant the meal you had around noon between breakfast and dinner, as that meal used to be small compared with the other two. In some parts it is still used with that sense but since the 17th century it is almost always used for the small meal you have between lunch and dinner.



In Spain you usually have lunch around 2:00 PM and dinner around 9:00 PM, so at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve. That small meal is our merienda.



I would like to know if there are or there have been words in English to refer to a similar small meal you have between the main meals. I have looked up the word even in old dictionaries, but I think the translations refer to the old meaning of the word:




  • The Spanish-English dictionary by Richard Percyvall from 1591 translates the word as noonemeate (currently noonmeat), but that seems to be a synonym for lunch.

  • The Spanish-Latin-English dictionary by Iohannis Minshaei from 1617 translates the word as a Bever. That word is not present in the Oxford dictionary but seems to be related to beverage. Etymonline says its meaning could be "a drinking bout".

  • The closest word I can think of is US English snack: "a small amount of food eaten between meals" or "a light meal that is eaten in a hurry or in a casual manner".


So among every word the English language has produced everywhere and at every time, old and new, known or unknown, what would be the closest one to Spanish merienda?










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    As merienda no longer has a definitive meaning, it might be easily translated into English with an English term with an indefinite meaning; tea. Tea is often a small meal taken in the afternoon.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago










  • @J.Taylor indeed! "A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes." You could add that as an answer.
    – Charlie
    2 days ago










  • I'm not sure there is a proper answer here. Instead of translating, one should use the local term. In my mind, explaining merienda is better than trying to translate it.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago






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    as a side note, the term is present also in Italian as merenda but it has survived mainly to refer to mid-morning snack break that children have at primary schools.
    – user240918
    2 days ago










  • @user240918 in Spanish (at least in the area where I live) that mid-morning snack the children have is known as "merendilla" (a small merienda).
    – Charlie
    2 days ago













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The Spanish word merienda is often included in lists of untranslatable words. It originally meant the meal you had around noon between breakfast and dinner, as that meal used to be small compared with the other two. In some parts it is still used with that sense but since the 17th century it is almost always used for the small meal you have between lunch and dinner.



In Spain you usually have lunch around 2:00 PM and dinner around 9:00 PM, so at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve. That small meal is our merienda.



I would like to know if there are or there have been words in English to refer to a similar small meal you have between the main meals. I have looked up the word even in old dictionaries, but I think the translations refer to the old meaning of the word:




  • The Spanish-English dictionary by Richard Percyvall from 1591 translates the word as noonemeate (currently noonmeat), but that seems to be a synonym for lunch.

  • The Spanish-Latin-English dictionary by Iohannis Minshaei from 1617 translates the word as a Bever. That word is not present in the Oxford dictionary but seems to be related to beverage. Etymonline says its meaning could be "a drinking bout".

  • The closest word I can think of is US English snack: "a small amount of food eaten between meals" or "a light meal that is eaten in a hurry or in a casual manner".


So among every word the English language has produced everywhere and at every time, old and new, known or unknown, what would be the closest one to Spanish merienda?










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The Spanish word merienda is often included in lists of untranslatable words. It originally meant the meal you had around noon between breakfast and dinner, as that meal used to be small compared with the other two. In some parts it is still used with that sense but since the 17th century it is almost always used for the small meal you have between lunch and dinner.



In Spain you usually have lunch around 2:00 PM and dinner around 9:00 PM, so at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve. That small meal is our merienda.



I would like to know if there are or there have been words in English to refer to a similar small meal you have between the main meals. I have looked up the word even in old dictionaries, but I think the translations refer to the old meaning of the word:




  • The Spanish-English dictionary by Richard Percyvall from 1591 translates the word as noonemeate (currently noonmeat), but that seems to be a synonym for lunch.

  • The Spanish-Latin-English dictionary by Iohannis Minshaei from 1617 translates the word as a Bever. That word is not present in the Oxford dictionary but seems to be related to beverage. Etymonline says its meaning could be "a drinking bout".

  • The closest word I can think of is US English snack: "a small amount of food eaten between meals" or "a light meal that is eaten in a hurry or in a casual manner".


So among every word the English language has produced everywhere and at every time, old and new, known or unknown, what would be the closest one to Spanish merienda?







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    As merienda no longer has a definitive meaning, it might be easily translated into English with an English term with an indefinite meaning; tea. Tea is often a small meal taken in the afternoon.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago










  • @J.Taylor indeed! "A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes." You could add that as an answer.
    – Charlie
    2 days ago










  • I'm not sure there is a proper answer here. Instead of translating, one should use the local term. In my mind, explaining merienda is better than trying to translate it.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago






  • 1




    as a side note, the term is present also in Italian as merenda but it has survived mainly to refer to mid-morning snack break that children have at primary schools.
    – user240918
    2 days ago










  • @user240918 in Spanish (at least in the area where I live) that mid-morning snack the children have is known as "merendilla" (a small merienda).
    – Charlie
    2 days ago














  • 9




    As merienda no longer has a definitive meaning, it might be easily translated into English with an English term with an indefinite meaning; tea. Tea is often a small meal taken in the afternoon.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago










  • @J.Taylor indeed! "A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes." You could add that as an answer.
    – Charlie
    2 days ago










  • I'm not sure there is a proper answer here. Instead of translating, one should use the local term. In my mind, explaining merienda is better than trying to translate it.
    – J. Taylor
    2 days ago






  • 1




    as a side note, the term is present also in Italian as merenda but it has survived mainly to refer to mid-morning snack break that children have at primary schools.
    – user240918
    2 days ago










  • @user240918 in Spanish (at least in the area where I live) that mid-morning snack the children have is known as "merendilla" (a small merienda).
    – Charlie
    2 days ago








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As merienda no longer has a definitive meaning, it might be easily translated into English with an English term with an indefinite meaning; tea. Tea is often a small meal taken in the afternoon.
– J. Taylor
2 days ago




As merienda no longer has a definitive meaning, it might be easily translated into English with an English term with an indefinite meaning; tea. Tea is often a small meal taken in the afternoon.
– J. Taylor
2 days ago












@J.Taylor indeed! "A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes." You could add that as an answer.
– Charlie
2 days ago




@J.Taylor indeed! "A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes." You could add that as an answer.
– Charlie
2 days ago












I'm not sure there is a proper answer here. Instead of translating, one should use the local term. In my mind, explaining merienda is better than trying to translate it.
– J. Taylor
2 days ago




I'm not sure there is a proper answer here. Instead of translating, one should use the local term. In my mind, explaining merienda is better than trying to translate it.
– J. Taylor
2 days ago




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as a side note, the term is present also in Italian as merenda but it has survived mainly to refer to mid-morning snack break that children have at primary schools.
– user240918
2 days ago




as a side note, the term is present also in Italian as merenda but it has survived mainly to refer to mid-morning snack break that children have at primary schools.
– user240918
2 days ago












@user240918 in Spanish (at least in the area where I live) that mid-morning snack the children have is known as "merendilla" (a small merienda).
– Charlie
2 days ago




@user240918 in Spanish (at least in the area where I live) that mid-morning snack the children have is known as "merendilla" (a small merienda).
– Charlie
2 days ago










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I think your question contains its answer: snack is both AE and BE, and the first example sentence reported by the Oxford Dictionary is




not many people make it through to the evening meal without a snack




which seems to reflect your definition quite perfectly: "at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve"






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    Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
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I was surprised not to see tea in the answers until I saw it in the very first comment by J. Taylor.



Also, consider high tea though not a single word.



MW:




tea noun
4a : refreshments usually including tea with sandwiches, crackers, or cookies served in late afternoon




ODO:




tea
NOUN
3 [British] A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes.



‘they were about to take afternoon tea’

[count noun] ‘picnic teas’



3.1 A cooked evening meal.



‘fish and chips for tea’



[count noun] ‘it reminds me of Sunday teas when I was a very small
child’



high tea
NOUN [British]

A meal eaten in the late afternoon or early evening, typically consisting of a cooked dish, bread and butter, and
tea.



‘you sat down and had high tea’







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    Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
    – WS2
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  • It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
    – WS2
    2 days ago










  • Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
    – 1006a
    2 days ago






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    @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
    – Carl Kevinson
    2 days ago






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    @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
    – WS2
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Well, supper, for one. I believe it fits the context quite well.



Merriam Webster:




supper noun



sup·​per | ˈsə-pər



Definitions:



1a: the evening meal especially when dinner is taken at midday




b : a social affair featuring a supper
especially: an evening social especially for raising funds




a church supper





2: the food served as a supper




'eat your supper'




3: a light meal served late in the evening




Oxford:




An evening meal, typically a light or informal one.




e.g.: ‘we had a delicious cold supper’








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    After having lived in Spain for the last 14 year or so, I would classify it as rather an "early evening snack". I don't think it should be considered as afternoon tea or snack, barely on the fact, it is too late to call it afternoon! However, I will add that the"merienda" as such can be something sweet or savoury. enter image description here






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    • Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
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      Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
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      @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
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      Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
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    There are small meals between lunch and dinner, these are called "Dunch" which is a combination of Lunch and Dinner. (It can also be called "Linner")



    If you eat a meal between breakfast and lunch it is called brunch, which is more well known.



    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/dunch
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      IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
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    • Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
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    • Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
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    I think your question contains its answer: snack is both AE and BE, and the first example sentence reported by the Oxford Dictionary is




    not many people make it through to the evening meal without a snack




    which seems to reflect your definition quite perfectly: "at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve"






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      Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
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    I think your question contains its answer: snack is both AE and BE, and the first example sentence reported by the Oxford Dictionary is




    not many people make it through to the evening meal without a snack




    which seems to reflect your definition quite perfectly: "at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve"






    share|improve this answer

















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      Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
      – chasly from UK
      yesterday















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    up vote
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    I think your question contains its answer: snack is both AE and BE, and the first example sentence reported by the Oxford Dictionary is




    not many people make it through to the evening meal without a snack




    which seems to reflect your definition quite perfectly: "at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve"






    share|improve this answer












    I think your question contains its answer: snack is both AE and BE, and the first example sentence reported by the Oxford Dictionary is




    not many people make it through to the evening meal without a snack




    which seems to reflect your definition quite perfectly: "at around 5:30 you need a small meal if you do not want to starve"







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      Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
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      Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
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    Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
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    Maybe 'late afternoon snack'
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    I was surprised not to see tea in the answers until I saw it in the very first comment by J. Taylor.



    Also, consider high tea though not a single word.



    MW:




    tea noun
    4a : refreshments usually including tea with sandwiches, crackers, or cookies served in late afternoon




    ODO:




    tea
    NOUN
    3 [British] A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes.



    ‘they were about to take afternoon tea’

    [count noun] ‘picnic teas’



    3.1 A cooked evening meal.



    ‘fish and chips for tea’



    [count noun] ‘it reminds me of Sunday teas when I was a very small
    child’



    high tea
    NOUN [British]

    A meal eaten in the late afternoon or early evening, typically consisting of a cooked dish, bread and butter, and
    tea.



    ‘you sat down and had high tea’







    share|improve this answer



















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      Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
      – 1006a
      2 days ago






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      @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
      – Carl Kevinson
      2 days ago






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      @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
      – WS2
      2 days ago















    up vote
    5
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    I was surprised not to see tea in the answers until I saw it in the very first comment by J. Taylor.



    Also, consider high tea though not a single word.



    MW:




    tea noun
    4a : refreshments usually including tea with sandwiches, crackers, or cookies served in late afternoon




    ODO:




    tea
    NOUN
    3 [British] A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes.



    ‘they were about to take afternoon tea’

    [count noun] ‘picnic teas’



    3.1 A cooked evening meal.



    ‘fish and chips for tea’



    [count noun] ‘it reminds me of Sunday teas when I was a very small
    child’



    high tea
    NOUN [British]

    A meal eaten in the late afternoon or early evening, typically consisting of a cooked dish, bread and butter, and
    tea.



    ‘you sat down and had high tea’







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      Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
      – 1006a
      2 days ago






    • 1




      @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
      – Carl Kevinson
      2 days ago






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      @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
      – WS2
      2 days ago













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    I was surprised not to see tea in the answers until I saw it in the very first comment by J. Taylor.



    Also, consider high tea though not a single word.



    MW:




    tea noun
    4a : refreshments usually including tea with sandwiches, crackers, or cookies served in late afternoon




    ODO:




    tea
    NOUN
    3 [British] A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes.



    ‘they were about to take afternoon tea’

    [count noun] ‘picnic teas’



    3.1 A cooked evening meal.



    ‘fish and chips for tea’



    [count noun] ‘it reminds me of Sunday teas when I was a very small
    child’



    high tea
    NOUN [British]

    A meal eaten in the late afternoon or early evening, typically consisting of a cooked dish, bread and butter, and
    tea.



    ‘you sat down and had high tea’







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    I was surprised not to see tea in the answers until I saw it in the very first comment by J. Taylor.



    Also, consider high tea though not a single word.



    MW:




    tea noun
    4a : refreshments usually including tea with sandwiches, crackers, or cookies served in late afternoon




    ODO:




    tea
    NOUN
    3 [British] A light afternoon meal consisting typically of tea to drink, sandwiches, and cakes.



    ‘they were about to take afternoon tea’

    [count noun] ‘picnic teas’



    3.1 A cooked evening meal.



    ‘fish and chips for tea’



    [count noun] ‘it reminds me of Sunday teas when I was a very small
    child’



    high tea
    NOUN [British]

    A meal eaten in the late afternoon or early evening, typically consisting of a cooked dish, bread and butter, and
    tea.



    ‘you sat down and had high tea’








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      Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
      – 1006a
      2 days ago






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      @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
      – Carl Kevinson
      2 days ago






    • 1




      @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
      – WS2
      2 days ago














    • 2




      Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
      – WS2
      2 days ago










    • Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
      – 1006a
      2 days ago






    • 1




      @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
      – Carl Kevinson
      2 days ago






    • 1




      @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
      – WS2
      2 days ago








    2




    2




    Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
    – WS2
    2 days ago




    Yes. What is understood by "tea" in Britain can vary considerably. The "posh" take "tea" as you describe - "afternoon tea" between lunch and dinner - sandwiches, cakes and tea (drunk with little finger extended). However many working-class people call the main evening meal "tea". The genteel talk about "high tea", where it contains a cooked element. The whole subject is confused by the fact that in pre-Victorian Britain "dinner", the main meal of the day was taken around noon. This persisted among the working classes in the 20th century and remains the case with many people today (continued).
    – WS2
    2 days ago












    It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
    – WS2
    2 days ago




    It was only when British people began to travel in Europe, that they noticed that the French and others took their main meal in the evening. Hence a word needed to be devised for the mid-day meal. "Luncheon", (or lunch) had previously been a snack taken mid-morning (and still is for some who call the mid-day meal "dinner"). The first OED entry for "luncheon" as a substantial meal in the early afternoon is in 1809.
    – WS2
    2 days ago












    Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
    – 1006a
    2 days ago




    Of course, in the US there is great confusion about these terms, and most Americans who say "high tea" actually mean "afternoon tea" by British definitions, because "high tea" sounds fancy.
    – 1006a
    2 days ago




    1




    1




    @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
    – Carl Kevinson
    2 days ago




    @WS2 I can confirm that some Americans use "lunch" for a mid-morning snack, "dinner" for a midday meal, and "supper" for an evening meal. Both "dinner" and "supper" were large meals, as those folks were farmers (and not the least bit bourgeois). I think that usage is highly regional, however.
    – Carl Kevinson
    2 days ago




    1




    1




    @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
    – WS2
    2 days ago




    @CarlKevinson Yes. That is the old-fashioned working-class English nomenclature that I grew up with (also in a farming area), and which still persists with a lot of people. The exception would be supper. In our case we had breakfast, dinner (main meal abt 1.00pm, usually some form of meat - perhaps sausage, pudding for desert), tea (less-substantial e.g. fish & chips, or egg and baked beans on toast), and supper (snack e.g piece of cake and warm drink) before we went to bed. I'm talking here of the 1950s, and the message about economising on carbohydrates had not begun!
    – WS2
    2 days ago










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    Well, supper, for one. I believe it fits the context quite well.



    Merriam Webster:




    supper noun



    sup·​per | ˈsə-pər



    Definitions:



    1a: the evening meal especially when dinner is taken at midday




    b : a social affair featuring a supper
    especially: an evening social especially for raising funds




    a church supper





    2: the food served as a supper




    'eat your supper'




    3: a light meal served late in the evening




    Oxford:




    An evening meal, typically a light or informal one.




    e.g.: ‘we had a delicious cold supper’








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      Well, supper, for one. I believe it fits the context quite well.



      Merriam Webster:




      supper noun



      sup·​per | ˈsə-pər



      Definitions:



      1a: the evening meal especially when dinner is taken at midday




      b : a social affair featuring a supper
      especially: an evening social especially for raising funds




      a church supper





      2: the food served as a supper




      'eat your supper'




      3: a light meal served late in the evening




      Oxford:




      An evening meal, typically a light or informal one.




      e.g.: ‘we had a delicious cold supper’








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        Well, supper, for one. I believe it fits the context quite well.



        Merriam Webster:




        supper noun



        sup·​per | ˈsə-pər



        Definitions:



        1a: the evening meal especially when dinner is taken at midday




        b : a social affair featuring a supper
        especially: an evening social especially for raising funds




        a church supper





        2: the food served as a supper




        'eat your supper'




        3: a light meal served late in the evening




        Oxford:




        An evening meal, typically a light or informal one.




        e.g.: ‘we had a delicious cold supper’








        share|improve this answer












        Well, supper, for one. I believe it fits the context quite well.



        Merriam Webster:




        supper noun



        sup·​per | ˈsə-pər



        Definitions:



        1a: the evening meal especially when dinner is taken at midday




        b : a social affair featuring a supper
        especially: an evening social especially for raising funds




        a church supper





        2: the food served as a supper




        'eat your supper'




        3: a light meal served late in the evening




        Oxford:




        An evening meal, typically a light or informal one.




        e.g.: ‘we had a delicious cold supper’









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            After having lived in Spain for the last 14 year or so, I would classify it as rather an "early evening snack". I don't think it should be considered as afternoon tea or snack, barely on the fact, it is too late to call it afternoon! However, I will add that the"merienda" as such can be something sweet or savoury. enter image description here






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            • Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
              – Pete Kirkham
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
              – Wilson
              2 days ago






            • 4




              uhhh what are we looking at
              – Azor Ahai
              2 days ago






            • 1




              @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
              – jmm
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
              – Henry
              2 days ago















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            After having lived in Spain for the last 14 year or so, I would classify it as rather an "early evening snack". I don't think it should be considered as afternoon tea or snack, barely on the fact, it is too late to call it afternoon! However, I will add that the"merienda" as such can be something sweet or savoury. enter image description here






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            • Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
              – Pete Kirkham
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
              – Wilson
              2 days ago






            • 4




              uhhh what are we looking at
              – Azor Ahai
              2 days ago






            • 1




              @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
              – jmm
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
              – Henry
              2 days ago













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            After having lived in Spain for the last 14 year or so, I would classify it as rather an "early evening snack". I don't think it should be considered as afternoon tea or snack, barely on the fact, it is too late to call it afternoon! However, I will add that the"merienda" as such can be something sweet or savoury. enter image description here






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            After having lived in Spain for the last 14 year or so, I would classify it as rather an "early evening snack". I don't think it should be considered as afternoon tea or snack, barely on the fact, it is too late to call it afternoon! However, I will add that the"merienda" as such can be something sweet or savoury. enter image description here







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            • Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
              – Pete Kirkham
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
              – Wilson
              2 days ago






            • 4




              uhhh what are we looking at
              – Azor Ahai
              2 days ago






            • 1




              @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
              – jmm
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
              – Henry
              2 days ago


















            • Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
              – Pete Kirkham
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
              – Wilson
              2 days ago






            • 4




              uhhh what are we looking at
              – Azor Ahai
              2 days ago






            • 1




              @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
              – jmm
              2 days ago






            • 2




              Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
              – Henry
              2 days ago
















            Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
            – Pete Kirkham
            2 days ago




            Claridges serves 'late afternoon tea' up to 5:30, so if the OP's time is correct then it's not too late to be a 'late afternoon' tea claridges.co.uk/restaurants-bars/afternoon-tea
            – Pete Kirkham
            2 days ago




            2




            2




            Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
            – Wilson
            2 days ago




            Would you mind translating that spanish caption on your picture?
            – Wilson
            2 days ago




            4




            4




            uhhh what are we looking at
            – Azor Ahai
            2 days ago




            uhhh what are we looking at
            – Azor Ahai
            2 days ago




            1




            1




            @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
            – jmm
            2 days ago




            @Wilson the translation would be "We are already packing the hams you will receive this Christmas. They will arrive soon"
            – jmm
            2 days ago




            2




            2




            Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
            – Henry
            2 days ago




            Spaniards seem to eat late because their clocks are wrong: lunch slightly after 2 p.m. and dinner after 9 p.m. is not so unreasonable when solar noon in Madrid is after 1 p.m. in winter and 2 p.m. in summer
            – Henry
            2 days ago










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            There are small meals between lunch and dinner, these are called "Dunch" which is a combination of Lunch and Dinner. (It can also be called "Linner")



            If you eat a meal between breakfast and lunch it is called brunch, which is more well known.



            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/dunch
            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/submission/545/linner






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              IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
              – Timbo
              2 days ago










            • Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
              – Holly Plyler
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            • Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
              – Timbo
              yesterday















            up vote
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            There are small meals between lunch and dinner, these are called "Dunch" which is a combination of Lunch and Dinner. (It can also be called "Linner")



            If you eat a meal between breakfast and lunch it is called brunch, which is more well known.



            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/dunch
            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/submission/545/linner






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              IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
              – Timbo
              2 days ago










            • Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
              – Holly Plyler
              yesterday










            • Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
              – Timbo
              yesterday













            up vote
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            up vote
            1
            down vote









            There are small meals between lunch and dinner, these are called "Dunch" which is a combination of Lunch and Dinner. (It can also be called "Linner")



            If you eat a meal between breakfast and lunch it is called brunch, which is more well known.



            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/dunch
            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/submission/545/linner






            share|improve this answer












            There are small meals between lunch and dinner, these are called "Dunch" which is a combination of Lunch and Dinner. (It can also be called "Linner")



            If you eat a meal between breakfast and lunch it is called brunch, which is more well known.



            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/dunch
            https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/submission/545/linner







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              IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
              – Timbo
              2 days ago










            • Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
              – Holly Plyler
              yesterday










            • Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
              – Timbo
              yesterday














            • 1




              IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
              – Timbo
              2 days ago










            • Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
              – Holly Plyler
              yesterday










            • Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
              – Timbo
              yesterday








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            1




            IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
            – Timbo
            2 days ago




            IME brunch is eaten instead of breakfast and lunch rather than between them.
            – Timbo
            2 days ago












            Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
            – Holly Plyler
            yesterday




            Sometimes, but with these terms I picture them as "social" events more than eating habits. Some people having already eating breakfast, may eat brunch to catch up with their friends or relatives.
            – Holly Plyler
            yesterday












            Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
            – Timbo
            yesterday




            Fair point! In any case, the most important part of brunch is the mimosas or bloody maries.
            – Timbo
            yesterday


















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