What is the difference between illegal and unlawful?
I often hear an unlawful act, so what is an illegal act?
Dictionary.com defines the words as:
illegal
forbidden by law or statute.
contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.
unlawful
- not lawful; contrary to law; illegal
so it appears they might be synonyms. Is there some nuance that I'm missing?
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I often hear an unlawful act, so what is an illegal act?
Dictionary.com defines the words as:
illegal
forbidden by law or statute.
contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.
unlawful
- not lawful; contrary to law; illegal
so it appears they might be synonyms. Is there some nuance that I'm missing?
word-choice
One is against the law and the other is a sick bird. Didn't we learn that in like 4th grade?
– 9fyj'j55-8ujfr5yhjky-'tt6yhkjj
Sep 7 '17 at 16:08
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I often hear an unlawful act, so what is an illegal act?
Dictionary.com defines the words as:
illegal
forbidden by law or statute.
contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.
unlawful
- not lawful; contrary to law; illegal
so it appears they might be synonyms. Is there some nuance that I'm missing?
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I often hear an unlawful act, so what is an illegal act?
Dictionary.com defines the words as:
illegal
forbidden by law or statute.
contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.
unlawful
- not lawful; contrary to law; illegal
so it appears they might be synonyms. Is there some nuance that I'm missing?
word-choice
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One is against the law and the other is a sick bird. Didn't we learn that in like 4th grade?
– 9fyj'j55-8ujfr5yhjky-'tt6yhkjj
Sep 7 '17 at 16:08
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One is against the law and the other is a sick bird. Didn't we learn that in like 4th grade?
– 9fyj'j55-8ujfr5yhjky-'tt6yhkjj
Sep 7 '17 at 16:08
One is against the law and the other is a sick bird. Didn't we learn that in like 4th grade?
– 9fyj'j55-8ujfr5yhjky-'tt6yhkjj
Sep 7 '17 at 16:08
One is against the law and the other is a sick bird. Didn't we learn that in like 4th grade?
– 9fyj'j55-8ujfr5yhjky-'tt6yhkjj
Sep 7 '17 at 16:08
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For all practical purposes, they are synonyms. Various sources describe possible minor differences, such as that illegal acts are criminal acts, whereas unlawful acts may be contrary to some non-criminal law, like tort law or contract law; however, if you check actual usage, I doubt whether you will find much of a pattern in that regard. The Oxford English Dictionary gives one as a synonym of the other. Unlawful obviously comes from un- and law; illegal comes from Latin in- (which means "un-") and lex ("law"). I believe unlawful is mostly just a more formal or technical synonym. Usage may very well vary in different countries, since each country has its own legal system, even though Anglo-Saxon systems are often much alike.
I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
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Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
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Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
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If something is unlawful, it means it is against the law, but not necessarily a criminal act; it can be a civil wrong, such as trademark infringement, for which the wrongdoer may be sued, but will unlikely face criminal prosecution.
Illegal describes an act that is unlawful and also a criminal act, such as drug trafficking.
EDIT: It appears these definitions aren't so cut and dry. This article discusses their usage in greater detail...
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Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
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The New Oxford American Dictionary 3rd Edition describes illegal as "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law", and describes unlawful as "not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules." In American English, then, illegal is used in phrases like illegal alien, where it means a person present in a country without official authorization, and which is never replaced by unlawful.
Looking at the Oxford English Dictionary, I found a note about the usage of illegal and unlawful.
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal. A third word with a similar meaning is illicit: this tends to encompass things that are forbidden or disapproved of by custom or society, as in an illicit love affair.
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This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
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+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
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@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
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I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
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I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
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Very occasionally (C.S. Lewis?), one hears "unlawful" used in the sense of 'Moral Law', as opposed to 'man made' laws. Otherwise, for practical purposes synonymous, as already stated.
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One difference to note is that unlawful is generally only used in the context of state or federal laws, wereas illegal can be used to refer to any set of rules. For example, in sports people can perform illegal moves, and when a computer program crashes it will sometimes say that it performed an illegal operation.
Within the context of the law though, they are much more synonymous save for the differences that the other answers mention.
The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
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This is an important definition and so far we've not really had it from the comments.
The true definition is within the context of the difference between Statute and Constitutional Law, yes despite baseless assertions to the contrary, we British and all Common Law jurisdictions have one, that’s why we have a Constitutional Monarchy. Constitutional Law includes Constitutional Instruments such as in 1215 Magna Carta and 1688 Declaration of Rights, both of which are a part of the US Constitution in addition to the US Constitution itself and Common Law. These are the only things that are Law per se. There is no such thing as Statute Law, the term is a misnomer, more properly it should be Statute Legislation, which can only be lawful if it follows the superiority of Common Law. So ‘legal’ refers to statute legislation and ‘lawful’ refers to constitutional and common law. Lawful is higher than legal.
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For all practical purposes, they are synonyms. Various sources describe possible minor differences, such as that illegal acts are criminal acts, whereas unlawful acts may be contrary to some non-criminal law, like tort law or contract law; however, if you check actual usage, I doubt whether you will find much of a pattern in that regard. The Oxford English Dictionary gives one as a synonym of the other. Unlawful obviously comes from un- and law; illegal comes from Latin in- (which means "un-") and lex ("law"). I believe unlawful is mostly just a more formal or technical synonym. Usage may very well vary in different countries, since each country has its own legal system, even though Anglo-Saxon systems are often much alike.
I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
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Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
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Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 20:26
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For all practical purposes, they are synonyms. Various sources describe possible minor differences, such as that illegal acts are criminal acts, whereas unlawful acts may be contrary to some non-criminal law, like tort law or contract law; however, if you check actual usage, I doubt whether you will find much of a pattern in that regard. The Oxford English Dictionary gives one as a synonym of the other. Unlawful obviously comes from un- and law; illegal comes from Latin in- (which means "un-") and lex ("law"). I believe unlawful is mostly just a more formal or technical synonym. Usage may very well vary in different countries, since each country has its own legal system, even though Anglo-Saxon systems are often much alike.
I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
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Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
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Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 20:26
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For all practical purposes, they are synonyms. Various sources describe possible minor differences, such as that illegal acts are criminal acts, whereas unlawful acts may be contrary to some non-criminal law, like tort law or contract law; however, if you check actual usage, I doubt whether you will find much of a pattern in that regard. The Oxford English Dictionary gives one as a synonym of the other. Unlawful obviously comes from un- and law; illegal comes from Latin in- (which means "un-") and lex ("law"). I believe unlawful is mostly just a more formal or technical synonym. Usage may very well vary in different countries, since each country has its own legal system, even though Anglo-Saxon systems are often much alike.
For all practical purposes, they are synonyms. Various sources describe possible minor differences, such as that illegal acts are criminal acts, whereas unlawful acts may be contrary to some non-criminal law, like tort law or contract law; however, if you check actual usage, I doubt whether you will find much of a pattern in that regard. The Oxford English Dictionary gives one as a synonym of the other. Unlawful obviously comes from un- and law; illegal comes from Latin in- (which means "un-") and lex ("law"). I believe unlawful is mostly just a more formal or technical synonym. Usage may very well vary in different countries, since each country has its own legal system, even though Anglo-Saxon systems are often much alike.
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I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
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Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
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Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 20:26
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I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
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Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
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Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 20:26
I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
I will add that "unlawful" is rarely used in ordinary speech (or writing). It tends to be a technical term of the law.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 14:29
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
@Colin: Right, I was considering whether I'd add something like that, then forgot. Will add it.
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:33
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Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
Unlawful and lawful are good, stout Anglo-Saxon words that tend to be of the law -- that is, they are used in statute -- while illegal and legal are fine, robust Latinate words that have historically tended to be about the law -- they're lawyer talk, full of baloney (Bologna).
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 17:22
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
@Stan: So you are suggesting an opposition between used in statute and lawyer talk?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 17:26
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Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 20:26
Traditionally, there has been a difference. Statutes (laws) are created, discussed and voted upon by "ordinary" folk -- some are lawyers by profession, no doubt, but not all by any means. The language of laws tends to be plain. The language of law, on the other hand, is complex and technical, and carries with it the baggage of nearly a millennium of history of resolving disputations and ambiguity. (Don't read anything prescriptive into what I've said; it's just historical observation. Having written a few, I've had to look at both how "people" read laws and how lawyers do.)
– bye
Feb 28 '11 at 20:26
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If something is unlawful, it means it is against the law, but not necessarily a criminal act; it can be a civil wrong, such as trademark infringement, for which the wrongdoer may be sued, but will unlikely face criminal prosecution.
Illegal describes an act that is unlawful and also a criminal act, such as drug trafficking.
EDIT: It appears these definitions aren't so cut and dry. This article discusses their usage in greater detail...
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Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
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If something is unlawful, it means it is against the law, but not necessarily a criminal act; it can be a civil wrong, such as trademark infringement, for which the wrongdoer may be sued, but will unlikely face criminal prosecution.
Illegal describes an act that is unlawful and also a criminal act, such as drug trafficking.
EDIT: It appears these definitions aren't so cut and dry. This article discusses their usage in greater detail...
1
Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
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If something is unlawful, it means it is against the law, but not necessarily a criminal act; it can be a civil wrong, such as trademark infringement, for which the wrongdoer may be sued, but will unlikely face criminal prosecution.
Illegal describes an act that is unlawful and also a criminal act, such as drug trafficking.
EDIT: It appears these definitions aren't so cut and dry. This article discusses their usage in greater detail...
If something is unlawful, it means it is against the law, but not necessarily a criminal act; it can be a civil wrong, such as trademark infringement, for which the wrongdoer may be sued, but will unlikely face criminal prosecution.
Illegal describes an act that is unlawful and also a criminal act, such as drug trafficking.
EDIT: It appears these definitions aren't so cut and dry. This article discusses their usage in greater detail...
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Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
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Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
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Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Ha, it seems we both posted our answers at the nearly the same time, and made similar edits equally fast. // P.S. Are you quite sure that this difference between criminal and non-criminal holds up? I have heard it mentioned but I have seen countless example that seemed to contradict it... or is my impression truly wrong? Perhaps it also depends on the country?
– Cerberus
Feb 28 '11 at 14:27
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
Good point, see my edit...
– The English Chicken
Feb 28 '11 at 14:34
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The New Oxford American Dictionary 3rd Edition describes illegal as "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law", and describes unlawful as "not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules." In American English, then, illegal is used in phrases like illegal alien, where it means a person present in a country without official authorization, and which is never replaced by unlawful.
Looking at the Oxford English Dictionary, I found a note about the usage of illegal and unlawful.
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal. A third word with a similar meaning is illicit: this tends to encompass things that are forbidden or disapproved of by custom or society, as in an illicit love affair.
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This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
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+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
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@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
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I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
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I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
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The New Oxford American Dictionary 3rd Edition describes illegal as "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law", and describes unlawful as "not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules." In American English, then, illegal is used in phrases like illegal alien, where it means a person present in a country without official authorization, and which is never replaced by unlawful.
Looking at the Oxford English Dictionary, I found a note about the usage of illegal and unlawful.
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal. A third word with a similar meaning is illicit: this tends to encompass things that are forbidden or disapproved of by custom or society, as in an illicit love affair.
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This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
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+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
1
@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
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I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
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I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
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The New Oxford American Dictionary 3rd Edition describes illegal as "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law", and describes unlawful as "not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules." In American English, then, illegal is used in phrases like illegal alien, where it means a person present in a country without official authorization, and which is never replaced by unlawful.
Looking at the Oxford English Dictionary, I found a note about the usage of illegal and unlawful.
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal. A third word with a similar meaning is illicit: this tends to encompass things that are forbidden or disapproved of by custom or society, as in an illicit love affair.
The New Oxford American Dictionary 3rd Edition describes illegal as "contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law", and describes unlawful as "not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules." In American English, then, illegal is used in phrases like illegal alien, where it means a person present in a country without official authorization, and which is never replaced by unlawful.
Looking at the Oxford English Dictionary, I found a note about the usage of illegal and unlawful.
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal. A third word with a similar meaning is illicit: this tends to encompass things that are forbidden or disapproved of by custom or society, as in an illicit love affair.
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This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
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+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
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@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
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I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
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I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
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This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
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+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
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@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
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I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
1
I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
1
1
This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
This seems to be directly contrary to jjackson's answer. In the world of software, I would certainly agree with jjackson rather than the OED, but I don't know about it in games. I suspect that the comment from the OED is now somewhat outdated.
– Colin Fine
Feb 28 '11 at 18:25
2
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+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
+1, These are roughly the definitions we were given when studying business law. Illegal = Explicitly against the rules (same as in programming). Unlawful = No laws explicitly permit this. There is a verdict in the UK of "unlawful killing", although it's illegal to kill, the verdict doesn't imply murder, it could be manslaughter or dangerous driving.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Feb 28 '11 at 22:09
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@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
@Neo: But they don't ever use the term illegal killing in UK courts, so "Illegal killing" has no legal definition, as far as I know, whereas "unlawful killing" does. For example, a jury concluded that Princess Diana had been unlawfully killed.
– Lee Kowalkowski
Jul 11 '14 at 22:01
1
1
I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
I'm surprised by the OED's note -- I would describe infractions in games as illegal rather than unlawful. Consider the American football penalty known as "illegal shift". It would be very strange to call it "unlawful shift".
– WinnieNicklaus
May 6 '15 at 15:15
1
1
I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
I have voted for this answer because I think it is on the right track, but the example from soccer seems wrong. At least in US usage handball in soccer is called "illegal" because it is forbidden by a specific rule. Describing it as unlawful would suggest that it is contrary to well-recognized principles of fairness, equity, justice, or morality. In reality, "no hands" is just an arbitrary rule of the game.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:24
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Very occasionally (C.S. Lewis?), one hears "unlawful" used in the sense of 'Moral Law', as opposed to 'man made' laws. Otherwise, for practical purposes synonymous, as already stated.
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Very occasionally (C.S. Lewis?), one hears "unlawful" used in the sense of 'Moral Law', as opposed to 'man made' laws. Otherwise, for practical purposes synonymous, as already stated.
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Very occasionally (C.S. Lewis?), one hears "unlawful" used in the sense of 'Moral Law', as opposed to 'man made' laws. Otherwise, for practical purposes synonymous, as already stated.
Very occasionally (C.S. Lewis?), one hears "unlawful" used in the sense of 'Moral Law', as opposed to 'man made' laws. Otherwise, for practical purposes synonymous, as already stated.
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One difference to note is that unlawful is generally only used in the context of state or federal laws, wereas illegal can be used to refer to any set of rules. For example, in sports people can perform illegal moves, and when a computer program crashes it will sometimes say that it performed an illegal operation.
Within the context of the law though, they are much more synonymous save for the differences that the other answers mention.
The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
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One difference to note is that unlawful is generally only used in the context of state or federal laws, wereas illegal can be used to refer to any set of rules. For example, in sports people can perform illegal moves, and when a computer program crashes it will sometimes say that it performed an illegal operation.
Within the context of the law though, they are much more synonymous save for the differences that the other answers mention.
The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
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One difference to note is that unlawful is generally only used in the context of state or federal laws, wereas illegal can be used to refer to any set of rules. For example, in sports people can perform illegal moves, and when a computer program crashes it will sometimes say that it performed an illegal operation.
Within the context of the law though, they are much more synonymous save for the differences that the other answers mention.
One difference to note is that unlawful is generally only used in the context of state or federal laws, wereas illegal can be used to refer to any set of rules. For example, in sports people can perform illegal moves, and when a computer program crashes it will sometimes say that it performed an illegal operation.
Within the context of the law though, they are much more synonymous save for the differences that the other answers mention.
answered Feb 28 '11 at 16:32
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The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
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The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
The answer by kiamlaluno says the opposite.
– Anixx
Apr 24 '12 at 18:06
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
@anixx: The program has performed an unlawful operation? Nope. You may try to perform an illegal move in chess, unless your move is drawing a gun on your opponent. Punching below the waist line in boxing is illegal, not unlawful. Simply, 'illegal' can apply to arbitrary set of rules, while 'unlawful' applies to law.
– SF.
Jul 7 '14 at 12:38
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
I think the difference you are seeing is because of what is impotant in these different contexts. In sport the games has arbitrary and very specific rules (such as the three seconds rule in basketball) and the only issue is whether a move violated one of them. State and federal legal cases in contrast often involve broader conceptions of whether someone's conduct was in accord with his obligations (such as an obligation to exercise due care). Here the concept of lawfulness (literally "full of law") is more relevant.
– David42
Aug 9 '16 at 16:37
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This is an important definition and so far we've not really had it from the comments.
The true definition is within the context of the difference between Statute and Constitutional Law, yes despite baseless assertions to the contrary, we British and all Common Law jurisdictions have one, that’s why we have a Constitutional Monarchy. Constitutional Law includes Constitutional Instruments such as in 1215 Magna Carta and 1688 Declaration of Rights, both of which are a part of the US Constitution in addition to the US Constitution itself and Common Law. These are the only things that are Law per se. There is no such thing as Statute Law, the term is a misnomer, more properly it should be Statute Legislation, which can only be lawful if it follows the superiority of Common Law. So ‘legal’ refers to statute legislation and ‘lawful’ refers to constitutional and common law. Lawful is higher than legal.
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This is an important definition and so far we've not really had it from the comments.
The true definition is within the context of the difference between Statute and Constitutional Law, yes despite baseless assertions to the contrary, we British and all Common Law jurisdictions have one, that’s why we have a Constitutional Monarchy. Constitutional Law includes Constitutional Instruments such as in 1215 Magna Carta and 1688 Declaration of Rights, both of which are a part of the US Constitution in addition to the US Constitution itself and Common Law. These are the only things that are Law per se. There is no such thing as Statute Law, the term is a misnomer, more properly it should be Statute Legislation, which can only be lawful if it follows the superiority of Common Law. So ‘legal’ refers to statute legislation and ‘lawful’ refers to constitutional and common law. Lawful is higher than legal.
add a comment |
This is an important definition and so far we've not really had it from the comments.
The true definition is within the context of the difference between Statute and Constitutional Law, yes despite baseless assertions to the contrary, we British and all Common Law jurisdictions have one, that’s why we have a Constitutional Monarchy. Constitutional Law includes Constitutional Instruments such as in 1215 Magna Carta and 1688 Declaration of Rights, both of which are a part of the US Constitution in addition to the US Constitution itself and Common Law. These are the only things that are Law per se. There is no such thing as Statute Law, the term is a misnomer, more properly it should be Statute Legislation, which can only be lawful if it follows the superiority of Common Law. So ‘legal’ refers to statute legislation and ‘lawful’ refers to constitutional and common law. Lawful is higher than legal.
This is an important definition and so far we've not really had it from the comments.
The true definition is within the context of the difference between Statute and Constitutional Law, yes despite baseless assertions to the contrary, we British and all Common Law jurisdictions have one, that’s why we have a Constitutional Monarchy. Constitutional Law includes Constitutional Instruments such as in 1215 Magna Carta and 1688 Declaration of Rights, both of which are a part of the US Constitution in addition to the US Constitution itself and Common Law. These are the only things that are Law per se. There is no such thing as Statute Law, the term is a misnomer, more properly it should be Statute Legislation, which can only be lawful if it follows the superiority of Common Law. So ‘legal’ refers to statute legislation and ‘lawful’ refers to constitutional and common law. Lawful is higher than legal.
answered Mar 31 '14 at 8:05
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