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Is the following sentence correctly punctuated (specifically, is a comma needed between "tall" and "white"?




Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat the doctor's secretary.




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    Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat the doctor's secretary.




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      Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat the doctor's secretary.




      Thanks so much!



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      Is the following sentence correctly punctuated (specifically, is a comma needed between "tall" and "white"?




      Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat the doctor's secretary.




      Thanks so much!



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          Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat
          the doctor's secretary.




          Whether the noun phrase in bold is punctuated correctly or not depends on the intended meaning. In "a rather tall, white counter", "counter" is modified by a coordination of modifiers giving the meaning a "counter that is both rather tall and white".



          By contrast, without punctuation, "a rather tall white counter" has two layers of modification called stacking: "counter is modified by "white" to form the nominal "white counter", and this in turn is modified by "rather tall" to give the interpretation "counter that is rather tall by the usual size applicable to white ones".






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            Yes.



            You use a comma between two adjectives that can be interchangeable, meaning you can switch the order and it would still make sense.



            For example, I will use your sentence.




            Beyond them was a rather tall, white counter




            You can switch them, and it would still make sense.




            Beyond them was a rather white, tall counter




            I will make another example, this time it cannot be interchangeable, so you wouldn't use a comma.




            I bought a wardrobe of some cheap winter clothes




            If you change the order, it wouldn't make sense:




            I bought a wardrobe of some winter cheap clothes




            You can read more about it here on grammar book. It not only explains this issue, but also using commas in general.






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            • Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
              – Alex K
              17 hours ago






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              See rules for adjective order.
              – Robusto
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            • @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
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            Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat
            the doctor's secretary.




            Whether the noun phrase in bold is punctuated correctly or not depends on the intended meaning. In "a rather tall, white counter", "counter" is modified by a coordination of modifiers giving the meaning a "counter that is both rather tall and white".



            By contrast, without punctuation, "a rather tall white counter" has two layers of modification called stacking: "counter is modified by "white" to form the nominal "white counter", and this in turn is modified by "rather tall" to give the interpretation "counter that is rather tall by the usual size applicable to white ones".






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              Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat
              the doctor's secretary.




              Whether the noun phrase in bold is punctuated correctly or not depends on the intended meaning. In "a rather tall, white counter", "counter" is modified by a coordination of modifiers giving the meaning a "counter that is both rather tall and white".



              By contrast, without punctuation, "a rather tall white counter" has two layers of modification called stacking: "counter is modified by "white" to form the nominal "white counter", and this in turn is modified by "rather tall" to give the interpretation "counter that is rather tall by the usual size applicable to white ones".






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                Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat
                the doctor's secretary.




                Whether the noun phrase in bold is punctuated correctly or not depends on the intended meaning. In "a rather tall, white counter", "counter" is modified by a coordination of modifiers giving the meaning a "counter that is both rather tall and white".



                By contrast, without punctuation, "a rather tall white counter" has two layers of modification called stacking: "counter is modified by "white" to form the nominal "white counter", and this in turn is modified by "rather tall" to give the interpretation "counter that is rather tall by the usual size applicable to white ones".






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                Beyond them was a rather tall white counter, and seated behind it sat
                the doctor's secretary.




                Whether the noun phrase in bold is punctuated correctly or not depends on the intended meaning. In "a rather tall, white counter", "counter" is modified by a coordination of modifiers giving the meaning a "counter that is both rather tall and white".



                By contrast, without punctuation, "a rather tall white counter" has two layers of modification called stacking: "counter is modified by "white" to form the nominal "white counter", and this in turn is modified by "rather tall" to give the interpretation "counter that is rather tall by the usual size applicable to white ones".







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                    Yes.



                    You use a comma between two adjectives that can be interchangeable, meaning you can switch the order and it would still make sense.



                    For example, I will use your sentence.




                    Beyond them was a rather tall, white counter




                    You can switch them, and it would still make sense.




                    Beyond them was a rather white, tall counter




                    I will make another example, this time it cannot be interchangeable, so you wouldn't use a comma.




                    I bought a wardrobe of some cheap winter clothes




                    If you change the order, it wouldn't make sense:




                    I bought a wardrobe of some winter cheap clothes




                    You can read more about it here on grammar book. It not only explains this issue, but also using commas in general.






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                    • Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
                      – Alex K
                      17 hours ago






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                      See rules for adjective order.
                      – Robusto
                      17 hours ago










                    • @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
                      – Sweet_Cherry
                      17 hours ago


















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                    Yes.



                    You use a comma between two adjectives that can be interchangeable, meaning you can switch the order and it would still make sense.



                    For example, I will use your sentence.




                    Beyond them was a rather tall, white counter




                    You can switch them, and it would still make sense.




                    Beyond them was a rather white, tall counter




                    I will make another example, this time it cannot be interchangeable, so you wouldn't use a comma.




                    I bought a wardrobe of some cheap winter clothes




                    If you change the order, it wouldn't make sense:




                    I bought a wardrobe of some winter cheap clothes




                    You can read more about it here on grammar book. It not only explains this issue, but also using commas in general.






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                    • Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
                      – Alex K
                      17 hours ago






                    • 1




                      See rules for adjective order.
                      – Robusto
                      17 hours ago










                    • @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
                      – Sweet_Cherry
                      17 hours ago
















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                    -1






                    Yes.



                    You use a comma between two adjectives that can be interchangeable, meaning you can switch the order and it would still make sense.



                    For example, I will use your sentence.




                    Beyond them was a rather tall, white counter




                    You can switch them, and it would still make sense.




                    Beyond them was a rather white, tall counter




                    I will make another example, this time it cannot be interchangeable, so you wouldn't use a comma.




                    I bought a wardrobe of some cheap winter clothes




                    If you change the order, it wouldn't make sense:




                    I bought a wardrobe of some winter cheap clothes




                    You can read more about it here on grammar book. It not only explains this issue, but also using commas in general.






                    share|improve this answer












                    Yes.



                    You use a comma between two adjectives that can be interchangeable, meaning you can switch the order and it would still make sense.



                    For example, I will use your sentence.




                    Beyond them was a rather tall, white counter




                    You can switch them, and it would still make sense.




                    Beyond them was a rather white, tall counter




                    I will make another example, this time it cannot be interchangeable, so you wouldn't use a comma.




                    I bought a wardrobe of some cheap winter clothes




                    If you change the order, it wouldn't make sense:




                    I bought a wardrobe of some winter cheap clothes




                    You can read more about it here on grammar book. It not only explains this issue, but also using commas in general.







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                    • Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
                      – Alex K
                      17 hours ago






                    • 1




                      See rules for adjective order.
                      – Robusto
                      17 hours ago










                    • @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
                      – Sweet_Cherry
                      17 hours ago




















                    • Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
                      – Alex K
                      17 hours ago






                    • 1




                      See rules for adjective order.
                      – Robusto
                      17 hours ago










                    • @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
                      – Sweet_Cherry
                      17 hours ago


















                    Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
                    – Alex K
                    17 hours ago




                    Hi, Thanks for your reply. This is the dilemma I was struggling with. Placing "white" before "tall" sounds off to me. Perhaps it's just me, but placing tall before white sounds better (perhaps, even necessary?). In addition, "rather" is meant to apply to the height of the table, not to the colour of the table. When white is placed before tall, I interpret the sentence to mean that the colour of the counter was somewhat (i.e. rather) white? Any clarification is appreciated!
                    – Alex K
                    17 hours ago




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                    See rules for adjective order.
                    – Robusto
                    17 hours ago




                    See rules for adjective order.
                    – Robusto
                    17 hours ago












                    @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
                    – Sweet_Cherry
                    17 hours ago






                    @AlexK In my answer I was only clarifying the interchangeable part. You should follow the rules for the order of adjectives. Putting white before tall can make sense, so it means that you should place commas between.
                    – Sweet_Cherry
                    17 hours ago












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