What is the rule for composing two words, when one of them is hyphenized or has spaces?












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Let's imagine we have an organization named EFSMA-EE and another called EFSMA Telecom (EFSMA is an acronym).



If I want to compose these with another word (e.g. "time" - as in "full-time"), what should I do?



Just add the hyphen?




EFSMA-EE-time and EFSMA Telecom-time?











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  • I would refer to this answer to another question which enumarates guideline to create compounds.
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    @Eldros: Nothing is told about acronyms.
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Let's imagine we have an organization named EFSMA-EE and another called EFSMA Telecom (EFSMA is an acronym).



If I want to compose these with another word (e.g. "time" - as in "full-time"), what should I do?



Just add the hyphen?




EFSMA-EE-time and EFSMA Telecom-time?











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  • I would refer to this answer to another question which enumarates guideline to create compounds.
    – Eldroß
    Feb 23 '11 at 10:46






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    @Eldros: Nothing is told about acronyms.
    – John Assymptoth
    Feb 23 '11 at 10:54














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Let's imagine we have an organization named EFSMA-EE and another called EFSMA Telecom (EFSMA is an acronym).



If I want to compose these with another word (e.g. "time" - as in "full-time"), what should I do?



Just add the hyphen?




EFSMA-EE-time and EFSMA Telecom-time?











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Let's imagine we have an organization named EFSMA-EE and another called EFSMA Telecom (EFSMA is an acronym).



If I want to compose these with another word (e.g. "time" - as in "full-time"), what should I do?



Just add the hyphen?




EFSMA-EE-time and EFSMA Telecom-time?








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  • I would refer to this answer to another question which enumarates guideline to create compounds.
    – Eldroß
    Feb 23 '11 at 10:46






  • 1




    @Eldros: Nothing is told about acronyms.
    – John Assymptoth
    Feb 23 '11 at 10:54


















  • I would refer to this answer to another question which enumarates guideline to create compounds.
    – Eldroß
    Feb 23 '11 at 10:46






  • 1




    @Eldros: Nothing is told about acronyms.
    – John Assymptoth
    Feb 23 '11 at 10:54
















I would refer to this answer to another question which enumarates guideline to create compounds.
– Eldroß
Feb 23 '11 at 10:46




I would refer to this answer to another question which enumarates guideline to create compounds.
– Eldroß
Feb 23 '11 at 10:46




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@Eldros: Nothing is told about acronyms.
– John Assymptoth
Feb 23 '11 at 10:54




@Eldros: Nothing is told about acronyms.
– John Assymptoth
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It is usually better to rephrase such constructions. However, if you cannot do this, you can use an en dash instead. Quoting from The Chicago Manual of Style:




The en dash is used in place of a hyphen in a compound adjective when one of its elements is an open compound or when two or more of its elements are open compounds or hyphenated compounds (e.g., a quasi-public–quasi-judicial body, the post–World War II years).




You can write the phrase in your question as




EFSMA-EE–time and EFSMA Telecom–time







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  • Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
    – The Raven
    Feb 23 '11 at 15:49












  • @The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
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It is usually better to rephrase such constructions. However, if you cannot do this, you can use an en dash instead. Quoting from The Chicago Manual of Style:




The en dash is used in place of a hyphen in a compound adjective when one of its elements is an open compound or when two or more of its elements are open compounds or hyphenated compounds (e.g., a quasi-public–quasi-judicial body, the post–World War II years).




You can write the phrase in your question as




EFSMA-EE–time and EFSMA Telecom–time







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  • Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
    – The Raven
    Feb 23 '11 at 15:49












  • @The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
    – Tragicomic
    Feb 23 '11 at 16:06


















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It is usually better to rephrase such constructions. However, if you cannot do this, you can use an en dash instead. Quoting from The Chicago Manual of Style:




The en dash is used in place of a hyphen in a compound adjective when one of its elements is an open compound or when two or more of its elements are open compounds or hyphenated compounds (e.g., a quasi-public–quasi-judicial body, the post–World War II years).




You can write the phrase in your question as




EFSMA-EE–time and EFSMA Telecom–time







share|improve this answer





















  • Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
    – The Raven
    Feb 23 '11 at 15:49












  • @The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
    – Tragicomic
    Feb 23 '11 at 16:06
















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It is usually better to rephrase such constructions. However, if you cannot do this, you can use an en dash instead. Quoting from The Chicago Manual of Style:




The en dash is used in place of a hyphen in a compound adjective when one of its elements is an open compound or when two or more of its elements are open compounds or hyphenated compounds (e.g., a quasi-public–quasi-judicial body, the post–World War II years).




You can write the phrase in your question as




EFSMA-EE–time and EFSMA Telecom–time







share|improve this answer












It is usually better to rephrase such constructions. However, if you cannot do this, you can use an en dash instead. Quoting from The Chicago Manual of Style:




The en dash is used in place of a hyphen in a compound adjective when one of its elements is an open compound or when two or more of its elements are open compounds or hyphenated compounds (e.g., a quasi-public–quasi-judicial body, the post–World War II years).




You can write the phrase in your question as




EFSMA-EE–time and EFSMA Telecom–time








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  • Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
    – The Raven
    Feb 23 '11 at 15:49












  • @The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
    – Tragicomic
    Feb 23 '11 at 16:06




















  • Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
    – The Raven
    Feb 23 '11 at 15:49












  • @The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
    – Tragicomic
    Feb 23 '11 at 16:06


















Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
– The Raven
Feb 23 '11 at 15:49






Per Chicago, I believe the convention is to use the en dash first, hyphen second. EFSMA[en dash]EE-time, etc.
– The Raven
Feb 23 '11 at 15:49














@The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
– Tragicomic
Feb 23 '11 at 16:06






@The Raven: My interpretation is that the already-hyphenated compound (EFSMA[hyphen]EE) stays hyphenated, and you use the en dash to add the third word, either before or after the term (to do which you would normally use a hyphen). For instance, in quasi-public–quasi-judicial, quasi-public and quasi-judicial are both already hyphenated, and the en dash is used to join the two hyphenated terms. If we were saying pre–EFSMA-EE, the en dash would, as you say, be used first. But if we say, EFSMA-EE–time, EFSMA-EE stays hyphenated, and the en dash is used after.
– Tragicomic
Feb 23 '11 at 16:06




















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