What “of” should I replace with Saxon genitives? Avoiding too many “of”












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I'm trying to write a short scientific article and ended up with this sentence:



Now we show the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data from the study.



As you can see there are too many "of" and I think native English speakers don't like it.



How would you write it instead?



I could try to say
the result of the events sequences analysis with the data from the study.



But it sounds strange.



I know there are some general rules but coming from a different language it's not always easy to apply them.

I can't see any "possession" here.



PS: I could even use another "of" instead of "from"
I could even use another "of"



the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data of the study.






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    So you'd like to show the event-sequence analysis results, right?
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago








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    You could replace “the analysis of” with “analyzing”.
    – Laurel
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    Remember that nouns used attributively are almost always in the singular. Your examples are not grammatical using them in the plural. And what dies this have to do with apostrophe-s possessives? Not sure I see where you need an apostrophe at all.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago






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    Saxon genitives always need apostrophes, so your proposed rewriting is not correct. I don’t think there’s much wrong with the original, though, except in most contexts we talk about a single sequence of events (but since I don’t know your context, I don’t know if you are in fact talking about one analysis which analysed several different sequences, each with its respective events). If you really want to get rid of an of, you could write “analysis into” instead – it’s rarer, but does occur. I don’t think there’s any real need, though.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    11 hours ago






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    @skan by the way, your suspicion that too many ofs in a row feels awkward in English is correct.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago
















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I'm trying to write a short scientific article and ended up with this sentence:



Now we show the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data from the study.



As you can see there are too many "of" and I think native English speakers don't like it.



How would you write it instead?



I could try to say
the result of the events sequences analysis with the data from the study.



But it sounds strange.



I know there are some general rules but coming from a different language it's not always easy to apply them.

I can't see any "possession" here.



PS: I could even use another "of" instead of "from"
I could even use another "of"



the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data of the study.






writing-style attributive-nouns saxon-genitive of-genitive







share|improve this question




















  • 2




    So you'd like to show the event-sequence analysis results, right?
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago








  • 2




    You could replace “the analysis of” with “analyzing”.
    – Laurel
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    Remember that nouns used attributively are almost always in the singular. Your examples are not grammatical using them in the plural. And what dies this have to do with apostrophe-s possessives? Not sure I see where you need an apostrophe at all.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago






  • 2




    Saxon genitives always need apostrophes, so your proposed rewriting is not correct. I don’t think there’s much wrong with the original, though, except in most contexts we talk about a single sequence of events (but since I don’t know your context, I don’t know if you are in fact talking about one analysis which analysed several different sequences, each with its respective events). If you really want to get rid of an of, you could write “analysis into” instead – it’s rarer, but does occur. I don’t think there’s any real need, though.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan by the way, your suspicion that too many ofs in a row feels awkward in English is correct.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago














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I'm trying to write a short scientific article and ended up with this sentence:



Now we show the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data from the study.



As you can see there are too many "of" and I think native English speakers don't like it.



How would you write it instead?



I could try to say
the result of the events sequences analysis with the data from the study.



But it sounds strange.



I know there are some general rules but coming from a different language it's not always easy to apply them.

I can't see any "possession" here.



PS: I could even use another "of" instead of "from"
I could even use another "of"



the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data of the study.






writing-style attributive-nouns saxon-genitive of-genitive







share|improve this question















I'm trying to write a short scientific article and ended up with this sentence:



Now we show the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data from the study.



As you can see there are too many "of" and I think native English speakers don't like it.



How would you write it instead?



I could try to say
the result of the events sequences analysis with the data from the study.



But it sounds strange.



I know there are some general rules but coming from a different language it's not always easy to apply them.

I can't see any "possession" here.



PS: I could even use another "of" instead of "from"
I could even use another "of"



the result of the analysis of the sequences of events with the data of the study.






writing-style attributive-nouns saxon-genitive of-genitive




writing-style attributive-nouns saxon-genitive of-genitive






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  • 2




    So you'd like to show the event-sequence analysis results, right?
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago








  • 2




    You could replace “the analysis of” with “analyzing”.
    – Laurel
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    Remember that nouns used attributively are almost always in the singular. Your examples are not grammatical using them in the plural. And what dies this have to do with apostrophe-s possessives? Not sure I see where you need an apostrophe at all.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago






  • 2




    Saxon genitives always need apostrophes, so your proposed rewriting is not correct. I don’t think there’s much wrong with the original, though, except in most contexts we talk about a single sequence of events (but since I don’t know your context, I don’t know if you are in fact talking about one analysis which analysed several different sequences, each with its respective events). If you really want to get rid of an of, you could write “analysis into” instead – it’s rarer, but does occur. I don’t think there’s any real need, though.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan by the way, your suspicion that too many ofs in a row feels awkward in English is correct.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago














  • 2




    So you'd like to show the event-sequence analysis results, right?
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago








  • 2




    You could replace “the analysis of” with “analyzing”.
    – Laurel
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    Remember that nouns used attributively are almost always in the singular. Your examples are not grammatical using them in the plural. And what dies this have to do with apostrophe-s possessives? Not sure I see where you need an apostrophe at all.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago






  • 2




    Saxon genitives always need apostrophes, so your proposed rewriting is not correct. I don’t think there’s much wrong with the original, though, except in most contexts we talk about a single sequence of events (but since I don’t know your context, I don’t know if you are in fact talking about one analysis which analysed several different sequences, each with its respective events). If you really want to get rid of an of, you could write “analysis into” instead – it’s rarer, but does occur. I don’t think there’s any real need, though.
    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan by the way, your suspicion that too many ofs in a row feels awkward in English is correct.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago








2




2




So you'd like to show the event-sequence analysis results, right?
– tchrist♦
11 hours ago






So you'd like to show the event-sequence analysis results, right?
– tchrist♦
11 hours ago






2




2




You could replace “the analysis of” with “analyzing”.
– Laurel
11 hours ago




You could replace “the analysis of” with “analyzing”.
– Laurel
11 hours ago




1




1




Remember that nouns used attributively are almost always in the singular. Your examples are not grammatical using them in the plural. And what dies this have to do with apostrophe-s possessives? Not sure I see where you need an apostrophe at all.
– tchrist♦
11 hours ago




Remember that nouns used attributively are almost always in the singular. Your examples are not grammatical using them in the plural. And what dies this have to do with apostrophe-s possessives? Not sure I see where you need an apostrophe at all.
– tchrist♦
11 hours ago




2




2




Saxon genitives always need apostrophes, so your proposed rewriting is not correct. I don’t think there’s much wrong with the original, though, except in most contexts we talk about a single sequence of events (but since I don’t know your context, I don’t know if you are in fact talking about one analysis which analysed several different sequences, each with its respective events). If you really want to get rid of an of, you could write “analysis into” instead – it’s rarer, but does occur. I don’t think there’s any real need, though.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
11 hours ago




Saxon genitives always need apostrophes, so your proposed rewriting is not correct. I don’t think there’s much wrong with the original, though, except in most contexts we talk about a single sequence of events (but since I don’t know your context, I don’t know if you are in fact talking about one analysis which analysed several different sequences, each with its respective events). If you really want to get rid of an of, you could write “analysis into” instead – it’s rarer, but does occur. I don’t think there’s any real need, though.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
11 hours ago




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@skan by the way, your suspicion that too many ofs in a row feels awkward in English is correct.
– Andy
11 hours ago




@skan by the way, your suspicion that too many ofs in a row feels awkward in English is correct.
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"events sequence" is grammatically incorrect, but "event sequence" is perfectly valid. In general, it's incorrect to use the plural for an attributive noun. All nouns except the final must be singular, though there seem to be weird exceptions ("Natural Sciences Research")



You could say




the result of the event sequence analysis




Or




the result of analyzing the event sequences




Or




the event sequence analysis results




"The event sequence analysis result" is also grammatically correct but sounds weirder than with "results" to me.



I don't think the fact that there are multiple sequences is of much consequence here. But if that's important to you, the most natural and grammatically correct way to state this unambiguously is:




The result of the analysis of the event sequences







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  • I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
    – skan
    11 hours ago












  • @skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago












  • @skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago










  • OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
    – skan
    11 hours ago






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    @skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
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"events sequence" is grammatically incorrect, but "event sequence" is perfectly valid. In general, it's incorrect to use the plural for an attributive noun. All nouns except the final must be singular, though there seem to be weird exceptions ("Natural Sciences Research")



You could say




the result of the event sequence analysis




Or




the result of analyzing the event sequences




Or




the event sequence analysis results




"The event sequence analysis result" is also grammatically correct but sounds weirder than with "results" to me.



I don't think the fact that there are multiple sequences is of much consequence here. But if that's important to you, the most natural and grammatically correct way to state this unambiguously is:




The result of the analysis of the event sequences







share|improve this answer























  • I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
    – skan
    11 hours ago












  • @skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago












  • @skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago










  • OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
    – skan
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
    – Andy
    11 hours ago


















1














"events sequence" is grammatically incorrect, but "event sequence" is perfectly valid. In general, it's incorrect to use the plural for an attributive noun. All nouns except the final must be singular, though there seem to be weird exceptions ("Natural Sciences Research")



You could say




the result of the event sequence analysis




Or




the result of analyzing the event sequences




Or




the event sequence analysis results




"The event sequence analysis result" is also grammatically correct but sounds weirder than with "results" to me.



I don't think the fact that there are multiple sequences is of much consequence here. But if that's important to you, the most natural and grammatically correct way to state this unambiguously is:




The result of the analysis of the event sequences







share|improve this answer























  • I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
    – skan
    11 hours ago












  • @skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago












  • @skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago










  • OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
    – skan
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
    – Andy
    11 hours ago
















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1








1






"events sequence" is grammatically incorrect, but "event sequence" is perfectly valid. In general, it's incorrect to use the plural for an attributive noun. All nouns except the final must be singular, though there seem to be weird exceptions ("Natural Sciences Research")



You could say




the result of the event sequence analysis




Or




the result of analyzing the event sequences




Or




the event sequence analysis results




"The event sequence analysis result" is also grammatically correct but sounds weirder than with "results" to me.



I don't think the fact that there are multiple sequences is of much consequence here. But if that's important to you, the most natural and grammatically correct way to state this unambiguously is:




The result of the analysis of the event sequences







share|improve this answer














"events sequence" is grammatically incorrect, but "event sequence" is perfectly valid. In general, it's incorrect to use the plural for an attributive noun. All nouns except the final must be singular, though there seem to be weird exceptions ("Natural Sciences Research")



You could say




the result of the event sequence analysis




Or




the result of analyzing the event sequences




Or




the event sequence analysis results




"The event sequence analysis result" is also grammatically correct but sounds weirder than with "results" to me.



I don't think the fact that there are multiple sequences is of much consequence here. But if that's important to you, the most natural and grammatically correct way to state this unambiguously is:




The result of the analysis of the event sequences








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  • I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
    – skan
    11 hours ago












  • @skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago












  • @skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago










  • OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
    – skan
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
    – Andy
    11 hours ago




















  • I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
    – skan
    11 hours ago












  • @skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
    – Andy
    11 hours ago












  • @skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
    – tchrist♦
    11 hours ago










  • OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
    – skan
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
    – Andy
    11 hours ago


















I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
– skan
11 hours ago






I have many sequences and each of them is composed by many events. Say for example the diseases that each person suffer along his life. And I analyze altogether, on a single analysis.
– skan
11 hours ago














@skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
– Andy
11 hours ago






@skan yes, that much was clear from your of chain. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to be this precise about what's singular and what's plural in a noun phrase while maintaining grammatical correctness. I doubt it's necessary to be so precise in an abstract or introduction, but that's your call.
– Andy
11 hours ago














@skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
– tchrist♦
11 hours ago




@skan You must still use the singular for all but the last noun.
– tchrist♦
11 hours ago












OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
– skan
11 hours ago




OK, thanks. Then can I also keep my original long "of" sentence or do you suggest to use your sentences instead?
– skan
11 hours ago




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@skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
– Andy
11 hours ago






@skan I'd recommend "the analysis of the event sequences", with or without "the result of"
– Andy
11 hours ago




















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