“There exists some people…” or “There exist some people…”?





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I know the usage of




This is a new car.




This is singular.




These are some books for you.




These is plural.



Shall we use




  1. There exists some people who agree with me.


  2. There exist some people who agree with me.



Which one is the correct usage and why?










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    Which one do you think and why?
    – Kevin
    Aug 28 '17 at 4:26










  • I am not sure. It is because there is a plural or singular?
    – Crazy
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:28






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    I think it's one of those words that's fine either way, and there's no reason rule telling why. Similar to anyway/anyways, upward/upwards, downward/downwards, toward/towards, etc.
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I know the usage of




This is a new car.




This is singular.




These are some books for you.




These is plural.



Shall we use




  1. There exists some people who agree with me.


  2. There exist some people who agree with me.



Which one is the correct usage and why?










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    Which one do you think and why?
    – Kevin
    Aug 28 '17 at 4:26










  • I am not sure. It is because there is a plural or singular?
    – Crazy
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:28






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    I think it's one of those words that's fine either way, and there's no reason rule telling why. Similar to anyway/anyways, upward/upwards, downward/downwards, toward/towards, etc.
    – Jsasz
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:36













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I know the usage of




This is a new car.




This is singular.




These are some books for you.




These is plural.



Shall we use




  1. There exists some people who agree with me.


  2. There exist some people who agree with me.



Which one is the correct usage and why?










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I know the usage of




This is a new car.




This is singular.




These are some books for you.




These is plural.



Shall we use




  1. There exists some people who agree with me.


  2. There exist some people who agree with me.



Which one is the correct usage and why?







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  • 2




    Which one do you think and why?
    – Kevin
    Aug 28 '17 at 4:26










  • I am not sure. It is because there is a plural or singular?
    – Crazy
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:28






  • 1




    I think it's one of those words that's fine either way, and there's no reason rule telling why. Similar to anyway/anyways, upward/upwards, downward/downwards, toward/towards, etc.
    – Jsasz
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:36














  • 2




    Which one do you think and why?
    – Kevin
    Aug 28 '17 at 4:26










  • I am not sure. It is because there is a plural or singular?
    – Crazy
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:28






  • 1




    I think it's one of those words that's fine either way, and there's no reason rule telling why. Similar to anyway/anyways, upward/upwards, downward/downwards, toward/towards, etc.
    – Jsasz
    Aug 28 '17 at 5:36








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Which one do you think and why?
– Kevin
Aug 28 '17 at 4:26




Which one do you think and why?
– Kevin
Aug 28 '17 at 4:26












I am not sure. It is because there is a plural or singular?
– Crazy
Aug 28 '17 at 5:28




I am not sure. It is because there is a plural or singular?
– Crazy
Aug 28 '17 at 5:28




1




1




I think it's one of those words that's fine either way, and there's no reason rule telling why. Similar to anyway/anyways, upward/upwards, downward/downwards, toward/towards, etc.
– Jsasz
Aug 28 '17 at 5:36




I think it's one of those words that's fine either way, and there's no reason rule telling why. Similar to anyway/anyways, upward/upwards, downward/downwards, toward/towards, etc.
– Jsasz
Aug 28 '17 at 5:36










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There exist some people who agree with me.


The subject of the sentence is people, which is plural.



Because of subject-verb-agreement, we need a plural verb to match the plural subject ("people"). The plural form of the verb is exist.






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    I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
    – sumelic
    Aug 28 '17 at 16:28


















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Neither. Say "There are" so you don't sound like you're acting smarter than you actually are. It's incredibly distracting when someone says "there exist(s) blank", when "there is/are blank" will do the job.






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  • Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
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There exist some people who agree with me.


The subject of the sentence is people, which is plural.



Because of subject-verb-agreement, we need a plural verb to match the plural subject ("people"). The plural form of the verb is exist.






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    I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
    – sumelic
    Aug 28 '17 at 16:28















up vote
9
down vote



accepted










There exist some people who agree with me.


The subject of the sentence is people, which is plural.



Because of subject-verb-agreement, we need a plural verb to match the plural subject ("people"). The plural form of the verb is exist.






share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
    – sumelic
    Aug 28 '17 at 16:28













up vote
9
down vote



accepted







up vote
9
down vote



accepted






There exist some people who agree with me.


The subject of the sentence is people, which is plural.



Because of subject-verb-agreement, we need a plural verb to match the plural subject ("people"). The plural form of the verb is exist.






share|improve this answer












There exist some people who agree with me.


The subject of the sentence is people, which is plural.



Because of subject-verb-agreement, we need a plural verb to match the plural subject ("people"). The plural form of the verb is exist.







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    I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
    – sumelic
    Aug 28 '17 at 16:28














  • 1




    I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
    – sumelic
    Aug 28 '17 at 16:28








1




1




I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
– sumelic
Aug 28 '17 at 16:28




I agree with the answer, but it's not clear to me that this argument is based on correct premises. FE's answer here gives some evidence for "There" being the syntactic subject of sentences like this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/140854/…
– sumelic
Aug 28 '17 at 16:28












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Neither. Say "There are" so you don't sound like you're acting smarter than you actually are. It's incredibly distracting when someone says "there exist(s) blank", when "there is/are blank" will do the job.






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  • Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
    – Chappo
    Nov 19 at 21:54















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Neither. Say "There are" so you don't sound like you're acting smarter than you actually are. It's incredibly distracting when someone says "there exist(s) blank", when "there is/are blank" will do the job.






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  • Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
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    Nov 19 at 21:54













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Neither. Say "There are" so you don't sound like you're acting smarter than you actually are. It's incredibly distracting when someone says "there exist(s) blank", when "there is/are blank" will do the job.






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Neither. Say "There are" so you don't sound like you're acting smarter than you actually are. It's incredibly distracting when someone says "there exist(s) blank", when "there is/are blank" will do the job.







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  • Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
    – Chappo
    Nov 19 at 21:54


















  • Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
    – Chappo
    Nov 19 at 21:54
















Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
– Chappo
Nov 19 at 21:54




Hi Bjorn, welcome to our site. Please note that EL&U is not a forum for opinions, it's a library of correct answers. The question here is whether the singular or plural should be used, and you haven't addressed that in substituting one verb for another. I encourage you to edit your answer to respond to that specific issue. For further guidance, see How to Answer, and don't forget to take the Tour :-)
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