Can passive reduced relative clauses precede a head noun?
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I have zero background in linguistics, so forgive me if this is trivial.
The Wikipedia article for relative clauses claims that, with regard to the positioning of the relative clause, "English, for example, is generally head-first".
However, intuitively, it makes sense that a "reduced object passive relative clause" would be able to precede the head noun. Yet, I cannot find any example online where such a case serves as an example of the usage of a reduced relative clause.
In the 2009 University of Georgia Classic City Classic tournament, this sentence appears in one question:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist, name this structure named after a German mathematician, a one-sided, nonorientable surface.
Of interest is this:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist
Hence my question: can reduced relative clauses precede a head noun, or if not, what sort of grammatical structure is this?
Academic sources would be appreciated.
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I have zero background in linguistics, so forgive me if this is trivial.
The Wikipedia article for relative clauses claims that, with regard to the positioning of the relative clause, "English, for example, is generally head-first".
However, intuitively, it makes sense that a "reduced object passive relative clause" would be able to precede the head noun. Yet, I cannot find any example online where such a case serves as an example of the usage of a reduced relative clause.
In the 2009 University of Georgia Classic City Classic tournament, this sentence appears in one question:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist, name this structure named after a German mathematician, a one-sided, nonorientable surface.
Of interest is this:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist
Hence my question: can reduced relative clauses precede a head noun, or if not, what sort of grammatical structure is this?
Academic sources would be appreciated.
passive-voice relative-clauses linguistics
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This is a quiz question, with its own specialized grammatical conventions. So the answer to your question is Yes, on a quiz show. More generally, reduced relative clauses are common initially as appositive clauses: Raised in the tradition of his ancestors, Mr. Smith is against anything new.
– John Lawler
12 hours ago
In other words, it's not grammatical in general English. There's no reduced relative clause preceding a head noun here. Instead, what you have is a noun phrase followed by a comma. Read it is as such, (prepending "It is " if you please) replacing the terminal comma with a colon. Then it makes sense.
– Kris
5 hours ago
This question is based on a misconception/ parsing of incomplete structure.
– Kris
5 hours ago
@Kris are you sure? After his comment, I looked up ‘appositive relative clauses’ which seem to be referenced in the literature of the topic as ARCs. And I’m certain that, as in his example, I’ve seen reduced ARCs in formal writing before - not just in this particular niche.
– Aaron Cruz
3 hours ago
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I have zero background in linguistics, so forgive me if this is trivial.
The Wikipedia article for relative clauses claims that, with regard to the positioning of the relative clause, "English, for example, is generally head-first".
However, intuitively, it makes sense that a "reduced object passive relative clause" would be able to precede the head noun. Yet, I cannot find any example online where such a case serves as an example of the usage of a reduced relative clause.
In the 2009 University of Georgia Classic City Classic tournament, this sentence appears in one question:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist, name this structure named after a German mathematician, a one-sided, nonorientable surface.
Of interest is this:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist
Hence my question: can reduced relative clauses precede a head noun, or if not, what sort of grammatical structure is this?
Academic sources would be appreciated.
passive-voice relative-clauses linguistics
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I have zero background in linguistics, so forgive me if this is trivial.
The Wikipedia article for relative clauses claims that, with regard to the positioning of the relative clause, "English, for example, is generally head-first".
However, intuitively, it makes sense that a "reduced object passive relative clause" would be able to precede the head noun. Yet, I cannot find any example online where such a case serves as an example of the usage of a reduced relative clause.
In the 2009 University of Georgia Classic City Classic tournament, this sentence appears in one question:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist, name this structure named after a German mathematician, a one-sided, nonorientable surface.
Of interest is this:
Formed by reattaching the ends of a closed band after cutting the band and giving it a half-twist
Hence my question: can reduced relative clauses precede a head noun, or if not, what sort of grammatical structure is this?
Academic sources would be appreciated.
passive-voice relative-clauses linguistics
passive-voice relative-clauses linguistics
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This is a quiz question, with its own specialized grammatical conventions. So the answer to your question is Yes, on a quiz show. More generally, reduced relative clauses are common initially as appositive clauses: Raised in the tradition of his ancestors, Mr. Smith is against anything new.
– John Lawler
12 hours ago
In other words, it's not grammatical in general English. There's no reduced relative clause preceding a head noun here. Instead, what you have is a noun phrase followed by a comma. Read it is as such, (prepending "It is " if you please) replacing the terminal comma with a colon. Then it makes sense.
– Kris
5 hours ago
This question is based on a misconception/ parsing of incomplete structure.
– Kris
5 hours ago
@Kris are you sure? After his comment, I looked up ‘appositive relative clauses’ which seem to be referenced in the literature of the topic as ARCs. And I’m certain that, as in his example, I’ve seen reduced ARCs in formal writing before - not just in this particular niche.
– Aaron Cruz
3 hours ago
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This is a quiz question, with its own specialized grammatical conventions. So the answer to your question is Yes, on a quiz show. More generally, reduced relative clauses are common initially as appositive clauses: Raised in the tradition of his ancestors, Mr. Smith is against anything new.
– John Lawler
12 hours ago
In other words, it's not grammatical in general English. There's no reduced relative clause preceding a head noun here. Instead, what you have is a noun phrase followed by a comma. Read it is as such, (prepending "It is " if you please) replacing the terminal comma with a colon. Then it makes sense.
– Kris
5 hours ago
This question is based on a misconception/ parsing of incomplete structure.
– Kris
5 hours ago
@Kris are you sure? After his comment, I looked up ‘appositive relative clauses’ which seem to be referenced in the literature of the topic as ARCs. And I’m certain that, as in his example, I’ve seen reduced ARCs in formal writing before - not just in this particular niche.
– Aaron Cruz
3 hours ago
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This is a quiz question, with its own specialized grammatical conventions. So the answer to your question is Yes, on a quiz show. More generally, reduced relative clauses are common initially as appositive clauses: Raised in the tradition of his ancestors, Mr. Smith is against anything new.
– John Lawler
12 hours ago
This is a quiz question, with its own specialized grammatical conventions. So the answer to your question is Yes, on a quiz show. More generally, reduced relative clauses are common initially as appositive clauses: Raised in the tradition of his ancestors, Mr. Smith is against anything new.
– John Lawler
12 hours ago
In other words, it's not grammatical in general English. There's no reduced relative clause preceding a head noun here. Instead, what you have is a noun phrase followed by a comma. Read it is as such, (prepending "It is " if you please) replacing the terminal comma with a colon. Then it makes sense.
– Kris
5 hours ago
In other words, it's not grammatical in general English. There's no reduced relative clause preceding a head noun here. Instead, what you have is a noun phrase followed by a comma. Read it is as such, (prepending "It is " if you please) replacing the terminal comma with a colon. Then it makes sense.
– Kris
5 hours ago
This question is based on a misconception/ parsing of incomplete structure.
– Kris
5 hours ago
This question is based on a misconception/ parsing of incomplete structure.
– Kris
5 hours ago
@Kris are you sure? After his comment, I looked up ‘appositive relative clauses’ which seem to be referenced in the literature of the topic as ARCs. And I’m certain that, as in his example, I’ve seen reduced ARCs in formal writing before - not just in this particular niche.
– Aaron Cruz
3 hours ago
@Kris are you sure? After his comment, I looked up ‘appositive relative clauses’ which seem to be referenced in the literature of the topic as ARCs. And I’m certain that, as in his example, I’ve seen reduced ARCs in formal writing before - not just in this particular niche.
– Aaron Cruz
3 hours ago
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This is a quiz question, with its own specialized grammatical conventions. So the answer to your question is Yes, on a quiz show. More generally, reduced relative clauses are common initially as appositive clauses: Raised in the tradition of his ancestors, Mr. Smith is against anything new.
– John Lawler
12 hours ago
In other words, it's not grammatical in general English. There's no reduced relative clause preceding a head noun here. Instead, what you have is a noun phrase followed by a comma. Read it is as such, (prepending "It is " if you please) replacing the terminal comma with a colon. Then it makes sense.
– Kris
5 hours ago
This question is based on a misconception/ parsing of incomplete structure.
– Kris
5 hours ago
@Kris are you sure? After his comment, I looked up ‘appositive relative clauses’ which seem to be referenced in the literature of the topic as ARCs. And I’m certain that, as in his example, I’ve seen reduced ARCs in formal writing before - not just in this particular niche.
– Aaron Cruz
3 hours ago