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I am writing a short story which features a character known only as Old Man, but there is a part of the story where someone calls the Old Man by his name. Only once, and I was wondering if there was a way to have it so that the name is said but not mentioned in the story. My story is written from the third person.










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    Is it a mystery that he is Old Man? If not, you should introduce him in a third person narration as John "Old Man" Smith and then refer to hims as Old Man until the dialog calls for "John or Mr. Smith" Another way is to have a character who is close to Old Man call him by "John" as sign that they only use their name when it's serious.
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    Is it a mystery that he is Old Man? If not, you should introduce him in a third person narration as John "Old Man" Smith and then refer to hims as Old Man until the dialog calls for "John or Mr. Smith" Another way is to have a character who is close to Old Man call him by "John" as sign that they only use their name when it's serious.
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    Is it a mystery that he is Old Man? If not, you should introduce him in a third person narration as John "Old Man" Smith and then refer to hims as Old Man until the dialog calls for "John or Mr. Smith" Another way is to have a character who is close to Old Man call him by "John" as sign that they only use their name when it's serious.
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    Is it a mystery that he is Old Man? If not, you should introduce him in a third person narration as John "Old Man" Smith and then refer to hims as Old Man until the dialog calls for "John or Mr. Smith" Another way is to have a character who is close to Old Man call him by "John" as sign that they only use their name when it's serious.
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Is it a mystery that he is Old Man? If not, you should introduce him in a third person narration as John "Old Man" Smith and then refer to hims as Old Man until the dialog calls for "John or Mr. Smith" Another way is to have a character who is close to Old Man call him by "John" as sign that they only use their name when it's serious.
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Sure, take the example of the library story arch in Doctor Who, we see River Song tell the Doctor his name by way of convincing him she's trustworthy but we don't hear it. The audience only know what she told him because she says she's going to tell him and only know it's the right name because of the Doctor's reaction to it. The same is possible in written fiction as well:




X leaned over and whispered into the Old Man's ear. The colour drained from his weatherbeaten features, then he found his voice. "But how do you know that name?" he sputtered.




Or something similar, the key is to show the information being used without actually saying what that information is.






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    Have the narrator tell the action in that place, not show it. Then show Old Man's reaction.



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    "Nothing gives you the right to do this."



    Old Man sat back down in his chair, hoping Taylor would take the hint and go. Instead, he bent over so close Old Man smelled beer and onions on his breath. Then Taylor whispered something Old Man had last heard from his wife's dying lips. Too many years to count.



    "How?..." Old Man asked him.



    Taylor stood. "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."



    And so on...






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    I think a good way to do this is to simply said "(person) called his name." or something like that.






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    • The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
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    You can say e.g. "upon hearing his name, he turned..."






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      I'd imagine, the Old Man is one of the central characters of your story. Why not name the story after him and use his name there?



      Doing so would accentuate his stature while creating an air of mystery. Allowing one person to called the Old Man by his name also conveys depth and sensitivity.



      I'm not sure if you've got a short story title in mind but I would simply call it "John" and leave it at that.






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        Sure, take the example of the library story arch in Doctor Who, we see River Song tell the Doctor his name by way of convincing him she's trustworthy but we don't hear it. The audience only know what she told him because she says she's going to tell him and only know it's the right name because of the Doctor's reaction to it. The same is possible in written fiction as well:




        X leaned over and whispered into the Old Man's ear. The colour drained from his weatherbeaten features, then he found his voice. "But how do you know that name?" he sputtered.




        Or something similar, the key is to show the information being used without actually saying what that information is.






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          Sure, take the example of the library story arch in Doctor Who, we see River Song tell the Doctor his name by way of convincing him she's trustworthy but we don't hear it. The audience only know what she told him because she says she's going to tell him and only know it's the right name because of the Doctor's reaction to it. The same is possible in written fiction as well:




          X leaned over and whispered into the Old Man's ear. The colour drained from his weatherbeaten features, then he found his voice. "But how do you know that name?" he sputtered.




          Or something similar, the key is to show the information being used without actually saying what that information is.






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            Sure, take the example of the library story arch in Doctor Who, we see River Song tell the Doctor his name by way of convincing him she's trustworthy but we don't hear it. The audience only know what she told him because she says she's going to tell him and only know it's the right name because of the Doctor's reaction to it. The same is possible in written fiction as well:




            X leaned over and whispered into the Old Man's ear. The colour drained from his weatherbeaten features, then he found his voice. "But how do you know that name?" he sputtered.




            Or something similar, the key is to show the information being used without actually saying what that information is.






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            Sure, take the example of the library story arch in Doctor Who, we see River Song tell the Doctor his name by way of convincing him she's trustworthy but we don't hear it. The audience only know what she told him because she says she's going to tell him and only know it's the right name because of the Doctor's reaction to it. The same is possible in written fiction as well:




            X leaned over and whispered into the Old Man's ear. The colour drained from his weatherbeaten features, then he found his voice. "But how do you know that name?" he sputtered.




            Or something similar, the key is to show the information being used without actually saying what that information is.







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                Have the narrator tell the action in that place, not show it. Then show Old Man's reaction.



                Example:



                "Nothing gives you the right to do this."



                Old Man sat back down in his chair, hoping Taylor would take the hint and go. Instead, he bent over so close Old Man smelled beer and onions on his breath. Then Taylor whispered something Old Man had last heard from his wife's dying lips. Too many years to count.



                "How?..." Old Man asked him.



                Taylor stood. "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."



                And so on...






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                  +1 got goosebumps when reading "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."
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                Have the narrator tell the action in that place, not show it. Then show Old Man's reaction.



                Example:



                "Nothing gives you the right to do this."



                Old Man sat back down in his chair, hoping Taylor would take the hint and go. Instead, he bent over so close Old Man smelled beer and onions on his breath. Then Taylor whispered something Old Man had last heard from his wife's dying lips. Too many years to count.



                "How?..." Old Man asked him.



                Taylor stood. "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."



                And so on...






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                  +1 got goosebumps when reading "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."
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                up vote
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                Have the narrator tell the action in that place, not show it. Then show Old Man's reaction.



                Example:



                "Nothing gives you the right to do this."



                Old Man sat back down in his chair, hoping Taylor would take the hint and go. Instead, he bent over so close Old Man smelled beer and onions on his breath. Then Taylor whispered something Old Man had last heard from his wife's dying lips. Too many years to count.



                "How?..." Old Man asked him.



                Taylor stood. "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."



                And so on...






                share|improve this answer












                Have the narrator tell the action in that place, not show it. Then show Old Man's reaction.



                Example:



                "Nothing gives you the right to do this."



                Old Man sat back down in his chair, hoping Taylor would take the hint and go. Instead, he bent over so close Old Man smelled beer and onions on his breath. Then Taylor whispered something Old Man had last heard from his wife's dying lips. Too many years to count.



                "How?..." Old Man asked him.



                Taylor stood. "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."



                And so on...







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                  +1 got goosebumps when reading "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."
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                  +1 got goosebumps when reading "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."
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                +1 got goosebumps when reading "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."
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                +1 got goosebumps when reading "I know more than you think. More than just your name, Old Man."
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                I think a good way to do this is to simply said "(person) called his name." or something like that.






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                • The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
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                I think a good way to do this is to simply said "(person) called his name." or something like that.






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                • The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
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                I think a good way to do this is to simply said "(person) called his name." or something like that.






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                • The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
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                • The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
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                The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
                – Lightness Races in Orbit
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                The problem with this is that your characters can hear something that your readers can't, which creates a disconnect between your readers and the story. I really would try to avoid the name being audible in-universe; you can have some characters hear it (e.g. as a targeted whisper, or as an anecdote of something that happened elsewhere), but from the perspective of the narrator or whoever's telling the story, it should be inaudible so as to maintain disbelief.
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                        I'd imagine, the Old Man is one of the central characters of your story. Why not name the story after him and use his name there?



                        Doing so would accentuate his stature while creating an air of mystery. Allowing one person to called the Old Man by his name also conveys depth and sensitivity.



                        I'm not sure if you've got a short story title in mind but I would simply call it "John" and leave it at that.






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                          I'd imagine, the Old Man is one of the central characters of your story. Why not name the story after him and use his name there?



                          Doing so would accentuate his stature while creating an air of mystery. Allowing one person to called the Old Man by his name also conveys depth and sensitivity.



                          I'm not sure if you've got a short story title in mind but I would simply call it "John" and leave it at that.






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                            Doing so would accentuate his stature while creating an air of mystery. Allowing one person to called the Old Man by his name also conveys depth and sensitivity.



                            I'm not sure if you've got a short story title in mind but I would simply call it "John" and leave it at that.






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                            I'd imagine, the Old Man is one of the central characters of your story. Why not name the story after him and use his name there?



                            Doing so would accentuate his stature while creating an air of mystery. Allowing one person to called the Old Man by his name also conveys depth and sensitivity.



                            I'm not sure if you've got a short story title in mind but I would simply call it "John" and leave it at that.







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