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I've recently caught myself spending too much time wondering about several off-sounding compounds I've come across, e.g. browsers list (as in, a list of browsers) and tasks queue (as in, a queue of tasks).



I can't help it, but pluralizing the first word sounds weird to me. I would have said, "browser list" and "task queue".



Which grammatical number is proper grammar?



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    I don't think "browsers list" is valid. A "browser list" is a list, each member of which is a "browser". A "browsers list" is a list, each member of which is a "browsers" :) just as an "egg box" is a box each member of which is an egg, while an "eggs box" is a box each member of which is an "eggs".
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I've recently caught myself spending too much time wondering about several off-sounding compounds I've come across, e.g. browsers list (as in, a list of browsers) and tasks queue (as in, a queue of tasks).



I can't help it, but pluralizing the first word sounds weird to me. I would have said, "browser list" and "task queue".



Which grammatical number is proper grammar?



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    I don't think "browsers list" is valid. A "browser list" is a list, each member of which is a "browser". A "browsers list" is a list, each member of which is a "browsers" :) just as an "egg box" is a box each member of which is an egg, while an "eggs box" is a box each member of which is an "eggs".
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I've recently caught myself spending too much time wondering about several off-sounding compounds I've come across, e.g. browsers list (as in, a list of browsers) and tasks queue (as in, a queue of tasks).



I can't help it, but pluralizing the first word sounds weird to me. I would have said, "browser list" and "task queue".



Which grammatical number is proper grammar?



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I've recently caught myself spending too much time wondering about several off-sounding compounds I've come across, e.g. browsers list (as in, a list of browsers) and tasks queue (as in, a queue of tasks).



I can't help it, but pluralizing the first word sounds weird to me. I would have said, "browser list" and "task queue".



Which grammatical number is proper grammar?



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    I don't think "browsers list" is valid. A "browser list" is a list, each member of which is a "browser". A "browsers list" is a list, each member of which is a "browsers" :) just as an "egg box" is a box each member of which is an egg, while an "eggs box" is a box each member of which is an "eggs".
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    I don't think "browsers list" is valid. A "browser list" is a list, each member of which is a "browser". A "browsers list" is a list, each member of which is a "browsers" :) just as an "egg box" is a box each member of which is an egg, while an "eggs box" is a box each member of which is an "eggs".
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I don't think "browsers list" is valid. A "browser list" is a list, each member of which is a "browser". A "browsers list" is a list, each member of which is a "browsers" :) just as an "egg box" is a box each member of which is an egg, while an "eggs box" is a box each member of which is an "eggs".
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I don't think "browsers list" is valid. A "browser list" is a list, each member of which is a "browser". A "browsers list" is a list, each member of which is a "browsers" :) just as an "egg box" is a box each member of which is an egg, while an "eggs box" is a box each member of which is an "eggs".
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Although the phrase means the same thing in either case, the singular and the plural mean entirely different things and are therefore both correct and grammatical.



Plural:

"Browsers list" refers to a list of individual elements each of which is a "browser".



OTOH,
Singular:

"Browser list" refers to a list in the class "browser," that is, elements belonging to the class.



Generally though, since we are referring to members of a class and all of them belong to the same class, we use the reference to class, i.e., the singular.



Consider:
User IDs: various elements, all of the type User ID (reference to class).
Users IDs or Users' IDs: IDs of several users. (no reference to class).






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  • Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
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    Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
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    @Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
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    @Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
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    Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
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Although the phrase means the same thing in either case, the singular and the plural mean entirely different things and are therefore both correct and grammatical.



Plural:

"Browsers list" refers to a list of individual elements each of which is a "browser".



OTOH,
Singular:

"Browser list" refers to a list in the class "browser," that is, elements belonging to the class.



Generally though, since we are referring to members of a class and all of them belong to the same class, we use the reference to class, i.e., the singular.



Consider:
User IDs: various elements, all of the type User ID (reference to class).
Users IDs or Users' IDs: IDs of several users. (no reference to class).






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  • Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






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    Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






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    @Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
    – fundagain
    6 hours ago








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    @Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago








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    Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago

















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Although the phrase means the same thing in either case, the singular and the plural mean entirely different things and are therefore both correct and grammatical.



Plural:

"Browsers list" refers to a list of individual elements each of which is a "browser".



OTOH,
Singular:

"Browser list" refers to a list in the class "browser," that is, elements belonging to the class.



Generally though, since we are referring to members of a class and all of them belong to the same class, we use the reference to class, i.e., the singular.



Consider:
User IDs: various elements, all of the type User ID (reference to class).
Users IDs or Users' IDs: IDs of several users. (no reference to class).






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  • Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






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    Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






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    @Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
    – fundagain
    6 hours ago








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    @Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago








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    Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago















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Although the phrase means the same thing in either case, the singular and the plural mean entirely different things and are therefore both correct and grammatical.



Plural:

"Browsers list" refers to a list of individual elements each of which is a "browser".



OTOH,
Singular:

"Browser list" refers to a list in the class "browser," that is, elements belonging to the class.



Generally though, since we are referring to members of a class and all of them belong to the same class, we use the reference to class, i.e., the singular.



Consider:
User IDs: various elements, all of the type User ID (reference to class).
Users IDs or Users' IDs: IDs of several users. (no reference to class).






share|improve this answer












Although the phrase means the same thing in either case, the singular and the plural mean entirely different things and are therefore both correct and grammatical.



Plural:

"Browsers list" refers to a list of individual elements each of which is a "browser".



OTOH,
Singular:

"Browser list" refers to a list in the class "browser," that is, elements belonging to the class.



Generally though, since we are referring to members of a class and all of them belong to the same class, we use the reference to class, i.e., the singular.



Consider:
User IDs: various elements, all of the type User ID (reference to class).
Users IDs or Users' IDs: IDs of several users. (no reference to class).







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  • Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






  • 1




    Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






  • 2




    @Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
    – fundagain
    6 hours ago








  • 2




    @Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago








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    Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago




















  • Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






  • 1




    Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
    – Chiru
    6 hours ago






  • 2




    @Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
    – fundagain
    6 hours ago








  • 2




    @Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago








  • 1




    Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – fundagain
    5 hours ago


















Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
– Chiru
6 hours ago




Thanks; though, I don't quite understand the notion of "class" that you're using, so both list definitions sound relatively interchangeable to me. Could you help clarifying the difference even more?
– Chiru
6 hours ago




1




1




Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
– Chiru
6 hours ago




Thanks again. Does "Users IDs or Users' IDs" not rather imply "IDs of several users, all of the type User ID" and thus reference the class/type as well?
– Chiru
6 hours ago




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@Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
– fundagain
6 hours ago






@Kris Are you sure you are correct here? What is an "eggs box" and why? Can you give a reference for your answer.
– fundagain
6 hours ago






2




2




@Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
– fundagain
5 hours ago






@Kris I don't get it. If someone comes to my shop and asks for an "eggs box", what should I sell them. I only have "egg boxes" in the store room. Do I sell them one of those?
– fundagain
5 hours ago






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Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
– fundagain
5 hours ago






Google ngrams knows of no "eggs box". books.google.com/ngrams/…
– fundagain
5 hours ago





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