What are things like Bread, Rice and Cereal collectively known as?





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We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My first guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.










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    Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
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  • @TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My first guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.










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    Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
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We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My first guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.










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We have broad classifications like "Fruit" and "Vegetable" and "Meat"/"Protein". What do you collectively call bread, rice, pasta, cereal etc. My first guess was "Grains" but that feels like referring to the unprocessed thing rather than the food.







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    Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
    – Tanner Swett
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  • @TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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    Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
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  • @TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
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Are you looking for a term which includes potatoes or excludes them?
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@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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@TannerSwett You know what I'm confused on whether to include potatoes or not - Should it be considered a veggie?
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There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).



A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".



"Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.



In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".



Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.






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    It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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  • @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
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  • This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
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  • @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.






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    Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
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  • @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
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    I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
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I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.






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  • Doesn't this include potatoes?
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    @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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  • Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
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  • I'm UK. I can't remember whether I picked this up from my ex-partner [a chef] or actually from Gordon Ramsey on such as Hell's Kitchen]
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Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."




Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.



Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.




US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?






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    "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.



Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.






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    I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
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    Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
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  • @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.



I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.






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  • +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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The term "farinaceous" might be appropriate, especially when used as "farinaceous dishes" that include other ingredients. The corresponding noun "farina" isn't quite equivalent.



"Farinaceous" seems to be rare now but was more common in the 1800s.






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    The examples you've given are all from the grass family and they're examples of cereals. But if you included peas and beans, those are legumes or pulses.



    But if you also included say potatoes then these are often called carbs.



    It's unclear which way you want to categorise. If you want to reference the main bulk of some meal which a previous answer has called the carbs, I often call this the filler of a meal.



    The term carbs can't really legitimately be used e.g. if your filler is a pulse such as kidney beans which has a high protein content so isn't just carbs. Again, bread is a filler but contains protein, carbs and a bit of fat. Or you have say dumplings which are another filler, this time often with a relatively high fat content.






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      There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).



      A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".



      "Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.



      In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".



      Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.






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        It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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      • @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
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      • This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
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      • @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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      There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).



      A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".



      "Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.



      In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".



      Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.






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        It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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      • @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
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      • This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
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      • @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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      There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).



      A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".



      "Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.



      In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".



      Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.






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      There are several terms which you can use, depending on the context of writing (or speaking).



      A very simple one is "the starch". It is mostly used in the context of meal planning, such as "What starch are we going to serve tonight" or "When planning a vegetarian meal, it is best to first decide on the starch and then select sides that complement it".



      "Grains" or, mostly interchangeably, "cereals" is what academic specialists for nutrition and diets use in their jargon. If you read a textbook on nutrition, that's where you will find breads, etc. There, the context makes it clear that the word doesn't mean simply uncooked kernels. The nonacademic literature on dieting is more likely to use "carbs" - see Chris H's answer for more detail on that usage.



      In legal language, for example rules and regulations about food product labelling, or import and export regulations, you will frequently find phrases like "grain products".



      Since none of these terms is unambiguous, outside of these genres of writing you will probably have to go for something more descriptive, for example "foods made from grains" in a colloquial conversation.







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        It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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      • @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
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      • This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
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      • @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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        It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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      • @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
        – Martin Bonner
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      • This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
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      • @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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      It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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      It also depends on why you mean to collectively refer to these foods in any specific instance. For example, we might also call such foods "staples", if we mean to talk about their role as a primary source of calories in the diet, for example. This might also include non-cereal foods like sago, plantain, cassava, potatoes, etc. What the speaker means to convey is important.
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      @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
      – Martin Bonner
      yesterday




      @Carl - The OP has not clarified whether they want "grains" or "starches". That was the whole point of the "do you want to include potatoes" question in the comment, and the OP has replied "I don't know".
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      This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
      – curiousdannii
      19 hours ago




      This is regionally specific - in Australia I don't think I've ever heard anyone use "starch" in a meal planning context.
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      @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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      @MartinBonner I was confused, but now thinking about it I do want to include those things. I think for my usage "Carbs" is the right one cause I wanted to classify it in terms of nutrition/meal-planning.
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      A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.






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        Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
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      • @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
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        I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
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      A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.






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        Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
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      • @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
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        I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
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      A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.






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      A broader category, including things like potatoes, would be carbs (carbohydrates). This is a common category when considering feeding for exercise, and tends to mean starchy foods. It's not a perfect term as "carbs" strictly includes sugars, but the carb component of a meal is the (usually fairly plain) bulk accompaniment to the tasty bits.







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        Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
        – rumtscho
        Nov 20 at 14:21










      • @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
        – Chris H
        Nov 20 at 15:24






      • 1




        I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
        – Douglas Held
        Nov 20 at 19:23














      • 2




        Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
        – rumtscho
        Nov 20 at 14:21










      • @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
        – Chris H
        Nov 20 at 15:24






      • 1




        I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
        – Douglas Held
        Nov 20 at 19:23








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      Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
      – rumtscho
      Nov 20 at 14:21




      Good point - the term is part of the jargon of yet another group, I am not entirely sure how I would call them. Maybe "popular nutrition authors" as opposed to the "academic nutrition authors" who prefer to use "grains" and use the word "carbohydrates" for the macronutrient only, not for the food which delivers it.
      – rumtscho
      Nov 20 at 14:21












      @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
      – Chris H
      Nov 20 at 15:24




      @rumtscho that's probably part of it but also carbs is broader, unless you can think of a better term for (grains + starchy vegetables). It pairs with the "protein" in the question, and as we're not exactly sure how the OP intends to use it, it's worth including the option. I have seen "choose your carb" (yes, singular) in a build your own menu at the gym cafe, but the don't use it any more, probably because plenty of people eating in a gym cafe would have a meal of protein + salad rather than filling up on carbs
      – Chris H
      Nov 20 at 15:24




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      I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
      – Douglas Held
      Nov 20 at 19:23




      I think this is a very good answer. In a strictly culinary context however, I don't agree and "starches" would be better. The reason is, a culinary aspect considers meal parts rather than nutritional /dietary constituents. And "carbs" relates entirely to the dietary content, not to the meal or the culture of cooking or eating.
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      I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.






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        @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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      • Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
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        @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
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      • Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
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      • I'm UK. I can't remember whether I picked this up from my ex-partner [a chef] or actually from Gordon Ramsey on such as Hell's Kitchen]
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      I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.






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      I've heard it called the Rule of Three - protein, starch, vegetable.







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        @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
        – David Richerby
        yesterday










      • Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
        – curiousdannii
        19 hours ago










      • I'm UK. I can't remember whether I picked this up from my ex-partner [a chef] or actually from Gordon Ramsey on such as Hell's Kitchen]
        – Tetsujin
        15 hours ago


















      • Doesn't this include potatoes?
        – Darren
        2 days ago






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        @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
        – David Richerby
        yesterday










      • Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
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        19 hours ago










      • I'm UK. I can't remember whether I picked this up from my ex-partner [a chef] or actually from Gordon Ramsey on such as Hell's Kitchen]
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        15 hours ago
















      Doesn't this include potatoes?
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      Doesn't this include potatoes?
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      2 days ago




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      @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
      – David Richerby
      yesterday




      @Darren Yes but I don't think that's a problem. The asker says "like bread, rice and cereal", suggesting that they're only examples of the phenomenon and the goal isn't to find a word that matches just those three things.
      – David Richerby
      yesterday












      Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
      – curiousdannii
      19 hours ago




      Where are you from? I've never heard this in Australia.
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      19 hours ago












      I'm UK. I can't remember whether I picked this up from my ex-partner [a chef] or actually from Gordon Ramsey on such as Hell's Kitchen]
      – Tetsujin
      15 hours ago




      I'm UK. I can't remember whether I picked this up from my ex-partner [a chef] or actually from Gordon Ramsey on such as Hell's Kitchen]
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      15 hours ago










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      Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."




      Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.



      Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.




      US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?






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        "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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      Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."




      Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.



      Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.




      US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?






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        "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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      Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."




      Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.



      Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.




      US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?






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      Since all of those, specifically (even the bread) are derived from cereal grains, they are generally referred to as "grains."




      Any food made from wheat, rice, oats, cornmeal, barley or another cereal grain is a grain product. Bread, pasta, oatmeal, breakfast cereals, tortillas, and grits are examples of grain products.



      Grains are divided into 2 subgroups, Whole Grains and Refined Grains. Whole grains contain the entire grain kernel ― the bran, germ, and endosperm. Examples of whole grains include whole-wheat flour, bulgur (cracked wheat), oatmeal, whole cornmeal, and brown rice. Refined grains have been milled, a process that removes the bran and germ. This is done to give grains a finer texture and improve their shelf life, but it also removes dietary fiber, iron, and many B vitamins. Some examples of refined grain products are white flour, de-germed cornmeal, white bread, and white rice.




      US Department of Agriculture: What Foods Are In the Grains Group?







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        "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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        "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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      "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
      – Darren
      2 days ago




      "Cereals" and "Grains" are common terms indeed, although I almost never hear "Bread" included - common food pyramids I'd see in school would have "Bread & Grain", breaking bread out on its own.
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      The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.



      Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.






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        I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
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        Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
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      • @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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      The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.



      Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.






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        I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
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        Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
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      • @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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      The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.



      Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.






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      The first thing that came to my mind is that these are "staple foods." In other words, and especially for what you specifically mention, these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people.



      Of course, they're also starches, carbs, sugars, etc.







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        I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
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        Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
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      • @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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        I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
        – rumtscho
        Nov 20 at 15:18






      • 1




        Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
        – Douglas Held
        Nov 20 at 19:19










      • @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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      I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
      – rumtscho
      Nov 20 at 15:18




      I would argue that the fact that they are usually also staple foods is accidental. It just happens that ___ foods (where ___ is the term the OP is looking for) are simply economically and physiologically suited to be eaten frequently. There are cultures whose staple foods wouldn't fall in the category of ___ foods, for example the Inuit eat mostly meat.
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      Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
      – Douglas Held
      Nov 20 at 19:19




      Disagree. Staples are necessary foundations for meals, and I would say they vary by culture and by taste. In the USA, staples would likely be milk, butter, bread, maybe peanut butter. In another country staples may be a sack of beans, rice, cooking oil, etc.
      – Douglas Held
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      @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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      @DouglasHeld yes, that's why I said "these foods constitute the basis of diet for a group of people," not for every group of people. But I do agree the term isn't the best for the OP's purposes.
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      The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.



      I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.






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      • +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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      The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.



      I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.






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      • +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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      The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.



      I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.






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      The term "grains" is commonly used to referred to the 'processed' food as well as the 'unprocessed thing'. People often refer to 'eating grains', and they very rarely mean the unprocessed seeds.



      I've also seen 'grain foods' used where there might be confusion.







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      • +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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      • +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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      +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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      +1 for this -- my doctor chides me to eat "whole grains," meaning whole wheat bread etc.
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      The term "farinaceous" might be appropriate, especially when used as "farinaceous dishes" that include other ingredients. The corresponding noun "farina" isn't quite equivalent.



      "Farinaceous" seems to be rare now but was more common in the 1800s.






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        The term "farinaceous" might be appropriate, especially when used as "farinaceous dishes" that include other ingredients. The corresponding noun "farina" isn't quite equivalent.



        "Farinaceous" seems to be rare now but was more common in the 1800s.






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          The term "farinaceous" might be appropriate, especially when used as "farinaceous dishes" that include other ingredients. The corresponding noun "farina" isn't quite equivalent.



          "Farinaceous" seems to be rare now but was more common in the 1800s.






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          The term "farinaceous" might be appropriate, especially when used as "farinaceous dishes" that include other ingredients. The corresponding noun "farina" isn't quite equivalent.



          "Farinaceous" seems to be rare now but was more common in the 1800s.







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              The examples you've given are all from the grass family and they're examples of cereals. But if you included peas and beans, those are legumes or pulses.



              But if you also included say potatoes then these are often called carbs.



              It's unclear which way you want to categorise. If you want to reference the main bulk of some meal which a previous answer has called the carbs, I often call this the filler of a meal.



              The term carbs can't really legitimately be used e.g. if your filler is a pulse such as kidney beans which has a high protein content so isn't just carbs. Again, bread is a filler but contains protein, carbs and a bit of fat. Or you have say dumplings which are another filler, this time often with a relatively high fat content.






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                The examples you've given are all from the grass family and they're examples of cereals. But if you included peas and beans, those are legumes or pulses.



                But if you also included say potatoes then these are often called carbs.



                It's unclear which way you want to categorise. If you want to reference the main bulk of some meal which a previous answer has called the carbs, I often call this the filler of a meal.



                The term carbs can't really legitimately be used e.g. if your filler is a pulse such as kidney beans which has a high protein content so isn't just carbs. Again, bread is a filler but contains protein, carbs and a bit of fat. Or you have say dumplings which are another filler, this time often with a relatively high fat content.






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                  The examples you've given are all from the grass family and they're examples of cereals. But if you included peas and beans, those are legumes or pulses.



                  But if you also included say potatoes then these are often called carbs.



                  It's unclear which way you want to categorise. If you want to reference the main bulk of some meal which a previous answer has called the carbs, I often call this the filler of a meal.



                  The term carbs can't really legitimately be used e.g. if your filler is a pulse such as kidney beans which has a high protein content so isn't just carbs. Again, bread is a filler but contains protein, carbs and a bit of fat. Or you have say dumplings which are another filler, this time often with a relatively high fat content.






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                  The examples you've given are all from the grass family and they're examples of cereals. But if you included peas and beans, those are legumes or pulses.



                  But if you also included say potatoes then these are often called carbs.



                  It's unclear which way you want to categorise. If you want to reference the main bulk of some meal which a previous answer has called the carbs, I often call this the filler of a meal.



                  The term carbs can't really legitimately be used e.g. if your filler is a pulse such as kidney beans which has a high protein content so isn't just carbs. Again, bread is a filler but contains protein, carbs and a bit of fat. Or you have say dumplings which are another filler, this time often with a relatively high fat content.







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