Help in solving a simple functional equation
I need to find all continuous functions satisfying:
$$3f(2x+1)=f(x) + 5x$$
The functional equation looks simple but I am unable to solve it. I tried to convert it into a Cauchy type equation but I wasn't able to do so.
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I need to find all continuous functions satisfying:
$$3f(2x+1)=f(x) + 5x$$
The functional equation looks simple but I am unable to solve it. I tried to convert it into a Cauchy type equation but I wasn't able to do so.
functional-equations
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Is there any restriction given for $x$? It is rather simple to determine the value of $f(-1)$ but I am not sure whether this is helpful or not.
– mrtaurho
Dec 15 at 10:53
If the domain of $f$ is all real numbers then Song's answer is correct. If the domain is allowed to be $x>-1$ then Cesareo's answer is correct and includes Song's answer (where $C_0=-1/2$). So the domain of your function $f$ is relevant. What is the domain?
– Rory Daulton
Dec 15 at 12:52
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I need to find all continuous functions satisfying:
$$3f(2x+1)=f(x) + 5x$$
The functional equation looks simple but I am unable to solve it. I tried to convert it into a Cauchy type equation but I wasn't able to do so.
functional-equations
I need to find all continuous functions satisfying:
$$3f(2x+1)=f(x) + 5x$$
The functional equation looks simple but I am unable to solve it. I tried to convert it into a Cauchy type equation but I wasn't able to do so.
functional-equations
functional-equations
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saisanjeev
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Is there any restriction given for $x$? It is rather simple to determine the value of $f(-1)$ but I am not sure whether this is helpful or not.
– mrtaurho
Dec 15 at 10:53
If the domain of $f$ is all real numbers then Song's answer is correct. If the domain is allowed to be $x>-1$ then Cesareo's answer is correct and includes Song's answer (where $C_0=-1/2$). So the domain of your function $f$ is relevant. What is the domain?
– Rory Daulton
Dec 15 at 12:52
add a comment |
1
Is there any restriction given for $x$? It is rather simple to determine the value of $f(-1)$ but I am not sure whether this is helpful or not.
– mrtaurho
Dec 15 at 10:53
If the domain of $f$ is all real numbers then Song's answer is correct. If the domain is allowed to be $x>-1$ then Cesareo's answer is correct and includes Song's answer (where $C_0=-1/2$). So the domain of your function $f$ is relevant. What is the domain?
– Rory Daulton
Dec 15 at 12:52
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Is there any restriction given for $x$? It is rather simple to determine the value of $f(-1)$ but I am not sure whether this is helpful or not.
– mrtaurho
Dec 15 at 10:53
Is there any restriction given for $x$? It is rather simple to determine the value of $f(-1)$ but I am not sure whether this is helpful or not.
– mrtaurho
Dec 15 at 10:53
If the domain of $f$ is all real numbers then Song's answer is correct. If the domain is allowed to be $x>-1$ then Cesareo's answer is correct and includes Song's answer (where $C_0=-1/2$). So the domain of your function $f$ is relevant. What is the domain?
– Rory Daulton
Dec 15 at 12:52
If the domain of $f$ is all real numbers then Song's answer is correct. If the domain is allowed to be $x>-1$ then Cesareo's answer is correct and includes Song's answer (where $C_0=-1/2$). So the domain of your function $f$ is relevant. What is the domain?
– Rory Daulton
Dec 15 at 12:52
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Let $g(x) = f(x-1)$. Then we have
$$
3g(2x+2) = g(x+1) + 5x,
$$ or equivalently
$$
g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = frac{5x-10}{6}=: phi(x).$$
Note that $g(0) = -2.5$. Hence we have
$$begin{eqnarray}
g(x) = g(x) -lim_{jtoinfty}3^{-j}g(2^{-j}x) &=& sum_{j=0}^infty left(3^{-j} g(2^{-j}x) -3^{-j-1}g(2^{-j-1}x)right)\ &=& sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}phi(2^{-j}x)\
&=&frac{1}{6}sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}(5cdot2^{-j}x-10)\
&=&frac{6x-15}{6} = x -frac{5}{2}.
end{eqnarray}$$ This establishes $f(x) = x -frac{3}{2}$.
$textbf{EDIT:}$ I implicitly assumed that the domain of definition of $g$ is $mathbb{R}$. If the domain of $g$ contains $0$, then the unique continuous solution is given by $g(x) = x-frac{5}{2} $ as we can see from the above argument. Otherwise, the argument collapses, and one can see that $$g(x) = ( x-frac{5}{2}) + h(x)$$ is a solution of $g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = phi(x)$ whenever it holds that $$
h(x) = frac{1}{3}h(frac{x}{2})quadcdots(*).
$$ Note that any continuous function $k : [1,2]tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$ can be extended uniquely to continuous $overline{k} :(0,infty)tomathbb{R}$ satisfying $(*)$. This shows that there are as many solutions $$g:xin(0,infty)mapsto ( x-frac{5}{2}) + overline{k}(x)$$ as there are $k:[1,2] tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$. And the same is also true for $g(x)$ on $(-infty,0)$.
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This is a linear difference equation that can be easily solved as
$$
f(x) = f_h(x)+f_p(x)
$$
the homogeneous solution gives
$$
f_h(x) = C_0 3^{1-log_2(x+1)}
$$
The complete solution is
$$
f(x) = frac{1}{2} left(left(2 C_0+1right) 3^{1-log_2 (x+1)}+2 x-3right)
$$
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Let $g(x) = f(x-1)$. Then we have
$$
3g(2x+2) = g(x+1) + 5x,
$$ or equivalently
$$
g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = frac{5x-10}{6}=: phi(x).$$
Note that $g(0) = -2.5$. Hence we have
$$begin{eqnarray}
g(x) = g(x) -lim_{jtoinfty}3^{-j}g(2^{-j}x) &=& sum_{j=0}^infty left(3^{-j} g(2^{-j}x) -3^{-j-1}g(2^{-j-1}x)right)\ &=& sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}phi(2^{-j}x)\
&=&frac{1}{6}sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}(5cdot2^{-j}x-10)\
&=&frac{6x-15}{6} = x -frac{5}{2}.
end{eqnarray}$$ This establishes $f(x) = x -frac{3}{2}$.
$textbf{EDIT:}$ I implicitly assumed that the domain of definition of $g$ is $mathbb{R}$. If the domain of $g$ contains $0$, then the unique continuous solution is given by $g(x) = x-frac{5}{2} $ as we can see from the above argument. Otherwise, the argument collapses, and one can see that $$g(x) = ( x-frac{5}{2}) + h(x)$$ is a solution of $g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = phi(x)$ whenever it holds that $$
h(x) = frac{1}{3}h(frac{x}{2})quadcdots(*).
$$ Note that any continuous function $k : [1,2]tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$ can be extended uniquely to continuous $overline{k} :(0,infty)tomathbb{R}$ satisfying $(*)$. This shows that there are as many solutions $$g:xin(0,infty)mapsto ( x-frac{5}{2}) + overline{k}(x)$$ as there are $k:[1,2] tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$. And the same is also true for $g(x)$ on $(-infty,0)$.
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Let $g(x) = f(x-1)$. Then we have
$$
3g(2x+2) = g(x+1) + 5x,
$$ or equivalently
$$
g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = frac{5x-10}{6}=: phi(x).$$
Note that $g(0) = -2.5$. Hence we have
$$begin{eqnarray}
g(x) = g(x) -lim_{jtoinfty}3^{-j}g(2^{-j}x) &=& sum_{j=0}^infty left(3^{-j} g(2^{-j}x) -3^{-j-1}g(2^{-j-1}x)right)\ &=& sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}phi(2^{-j}x)\
&=&frac{1}{6}sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}(5cdot2^{-j}x-10)\
&=&frac{6x-15}{6} = x -frac{5}{2}.
end{eqnarray}$$ This establishes $f(x) = x -frac{3}{2}$.
$textbf{EDIT:}$ I implicitly assumed that the domain of definition of $g$ is $mathbb{R}$. If the domain of $g$ contains $0$, then the unique continuous solution is given by $g(x) = x-frac{5}{2} $ as we can see from the above argument. Otherwise, the argument collapses, and one can see that $$g(x) = ( x-frac{5}{2}) + h(x)$$ is a solution of $g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = phi(x)$ whenever it holds that $$
h(x) = frac{1}{3}h(frac{x}{2})quadcdots(*).
$$ Note that any continuous function $k : [1,2]tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$ can be extended uniquely to continuous $overline{k} :(0,infty)tomathbb{R}$ satisfying $(*)$. This shows that there are as many solutions $$g:xin(0,infty)mapsto ( x-frac{5}{2}) + overline{k}(x)$$ as there are $k:[1,2] tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$. And the same is also true for $g(x)$ on $(-infty,0)$.
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Let $g(x) = f(x-1)$. Then we have
$$
3g(2x+2) = g(x+1) + 5x,
$$ or equivalently
$$
g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = frac{5x-10}{6}=: phi(x).$$
Note that $g(0) = -2.5$. Hence we have
$$begin{eqnarray}
g(x) = g(x) -lim_{jtoinfty}3^{-j}g(2^{-j}x) &=& sum_{j=0}^infty left(3^{-j} g(2^{-j}x) -3^{-j-1}g(2^{-j-1}x)right)\ &=& sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}phi(2^{-j}x)\
&=&frac{1}{6}sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}(5cdot2^{-j}x-10)\
&=&frac{6x-15}{6} = x -frac{5}{2}.
end{eqnarray}$$ This establishes $f(x) = x -frac{3}{2}$.
$textbf{EDIT:}$ I implicitly assumed that the domain of definition of $g$ is $mathbb{R}$. If the domain of $g$ contains $0$, then the unique continuous solution is given by $g(x) = x-frac{5}{2} $ as we can see from the above argument. Otherwise, the argument collapses, and one can see that $$g(x) = ( x-frac{5}{2}) + h(x)$$ is a solution of $g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = phi(x)$ whenever it holds that $$
h(x) = frac{1}{3}h(frac{x}{2})quadcdots(*).
$$ Note that any continuous function $k : [1,2]tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$ can be extended uniquely to continuous $overline{k} :(0,infty)tomathbb{R}$ satisfying $(*)$. This shows that there are as many solutions $$g:xin(0,infty)mapsto ( x-frac{5}{2}) + overline{k}(x)$$ as there are $k:[1,2] tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$. And the same is also true for $g(x)$ on $(-infty,0)$.
Let $g(x) = f(x-1)$. Then we have
$$
3g(2x+2) = g(x+1) + 5x,
$$ or equivalently
$$
g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = frac{5x-10}{6}=: phi(x).$$
Note that $g(0) = -2.5$. Hence we have
$$begin{eqnarray}
g(x) = g(x) -lim_{jtoinfty}3^{-j}g(2^{-j}x) &=& sum_{j=0}^infty left(3^{-j} g(2^{-j}x) -3^{-j-1}g(2^{-j-1}x)right)\ &=& sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}phi(2^{-j}x)\
&=&frac{1}{6}sum_{j=0}^infty 3^{-j}(5cdot2^{-j}x-10)\
&=&frac{6x-15}{6} = x -frac{5}{2}.
end{eqnarray}$$ This establishes $f(x) = x -frac{3}{2}$.
$textbf{EDIT:}$ I implicitly assumed that the domain of definition of $g$ is $mathbb{R}$. If the domain of $g$ contains $0$, then the unique continuous solution is given by $g(x) = x-frac{5}{2} $ as we can see from the above argument. Otherwise, the argument collapses, and one can see that $$g(x) = ( x-frac{5}{2}) + h(x)$$ is a solution of $g(x)-frac{1}{3}g(frac{x}{2}) = phi(x)$ whenever it holds that $$
h(x) = frac{1}{3}h(frac{x}{2})quadcdots(*).
$$ Note that any continuous function $k : [1,2]tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$ can be extended uniquely to continuous $overline{k} :(0,infty)tomathbb{R}$ satisfying $(*)$. This shows that there are as many solutions $$g:xin(0,infty)mapsto ( x-frac{5}{2}) + overline{k}(x)$$ as there are $k:[1,2] tomathbb{R}$ with $k(2) = frac{1}{3}k(1)$. And the same is also true for $g(x)$ on $(-infty,0)$.
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answered Dec 15 at 11:06
Song
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This is a linear difference equation that can be easily solved as
$$
f(x) = f_h(x)+f_p(x)
$$
the homogeneous solution gives
$$
f_h(x) = C_0 3^{1-log_2(x+1)}
$$
The complete solution is
$$
f(x) = frac{1}{2} left(left(2 C_0+1right) 3^{1-log_2 (x+1)}+2 x-3right)
$$
add a comment |
This is a linear difference equation that can be easily solved as
$$
f(x) = f_h(x)+f_p(x)
$$
the homogeneous solution gives
$$
f_h(x) = C_0 3^{1-log_2(x+1)}
$$
The complete solution is
$$
f(x) = frac{1}{2} left(left(2 C_0+1right) 3^{1-log_2 (x+1)}+2 x-3right)
$$
add a comment |
This is a linear difference equation that can be easily solved as
$$
f(x) = f_h(x)+f_p(x)
$$
the homogeneous solution gives
$$
f_h(x) = C_0 3^{1-log_2(x+1)}
$$
The complete solution is
$$
f(x) = frac{1}{2} left(left(2 C_0+1right) 3^{1-log_2 (x+1)}+2 x-3right)
$$
This is a linear difference equation that can be easily solved as
$$
f(x) = f_h(x)+f_p(x)
$$
the homogeneous solution gives
$$
f_h(x) = C_0 3^{1-log_2(x+1)}
$$
The complete solution is
$$
f(x) = frac{1}{2} left(left(2 C_0+1right) 3^{1-log_2 (x+1)}+2 x-3right)
$$
answered Dec 15 at 11:52
Cesareo
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Is there any restriction given for $x$? It is rather simple to determine the value of $f(-1)$ but I am not sure whether this is helpful or not.
– mrtaurho
Dec 15 at 10:53
If the domain of $f$ is all real numbers then Song's answer is correct. If the domain is allowed to be $x>-1$ then Cesareo's answer is correct and includes Song's answer (where $C_0=-1/2$). So the domain of your function $f$ is relevant. What is the domain?
– Rory Daulton
Dec 15 at 12:52