Why does plastic never dry properly in a dishwasher?
Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.
We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.
Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)
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Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.
We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.
Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)
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Why do plastic utensils ... I thought for sure this was going to be about Tupperware.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
@Mazura Of course this is also about Tupperware. Not every plastic utensil in our kitchen carries that brand name though ;)
– Tinkeringbell
5 hours ago
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Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.
We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.
Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)
equipment cleaning dishwasher
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Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.
We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.
Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)
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Why do plastic utensils ... I thought for sure this was going to be about Tupperware.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
@Mazura Of course this is also about Tupperware. Not every plastic utensil in our kitchen carries that brand name though ;)
– Tinkeringbell
5 hours ago
add a comment |
4
Why do plastic utensils ... I thought for sure this was going to be about Tupperware.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
@Mazura Of course this is also about Tupperware. Not every plastic utensil in our kitchen carries that brand name though ;)
– Tinkeringbell
5 hours ago
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4
Why do plastic utensils ... I thought for sure this was going to be about Tupperware.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Why do plastic utensils ... I thought for sure this was going to be about Tupperware.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
@Mazura Of course this is also about Tupperware. Not every plastic utensil in our kitchen carries that brand name though ;)
– Tinkeringbell
5 hours ago
@Mazura Of course this is also about Tupperware. Not every plastic utensil in our kitchen carries that brand name though ;)
– Tinkeringbell
5 hours ago
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Causes
According to this article the problem seems mainly two fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.
During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and help with cleaning.
Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus gaining heat slower leading to less evaporation.
Thermal Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense than other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining less heat, and conserving less energy, thus remaining warm for shorter periods, again promoting less evaporation.
There may also be other factors at work; surface properties of plastics like roughness may also cause water droplets stick more to its surface.
Possible Solutions
Briefly open the door
I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) almost dry.
After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better so that the least amount of heat is lost), immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.
Leave it open for a few brief seconds, long enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost. This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.
After that close the door again and let it sit for a while. Ten to twenty minutes is probably more than enough if you want to get it done as soon as possible; otherwise just let it sit for as long as you like after that.
This would ensure that most items will be either almost dry or have a minimum amount of water when you return to unload the dishwasher.
Shake Plastic Items
One other thing you may do in parallel to what's described above, (which can be more of a hassle to accomplish), is after opening the door, individually grab any plastic objects and one by one give them a vigorously shake to loosen any droplets on its surface.
If your ratio of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority keeping hassle to a minimum. One or two shakes per item should be enough, just let them splash into the sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the surface water off; then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most residual humidity.
As mentioned in the comments, if you have no delicate items that may break, you can also just give the whole rack a shake instead. Items with intricate designs or crevices that pool water may still benefit from a good individual shake.
2
Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
9
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
1
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
1
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
|
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In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).
The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.
Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.
Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.
4
Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
3
@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
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There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.
Some options to help in no particular order:
- Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.
- Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)
- Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the upper racks spilling onto the lower dishes.
- Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.
As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.
Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
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Causes
According to this article the problem seems mainly two fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.
During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and help with cleaning.
Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus gaining heat slower leading to less evaporation.
Thermal Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense than other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining less heat, and conserving less energy, thus remaining warm for shorter periods, again promoting less evaporation.
There may also be other factors at work; surface properties of plastics like roughness may also cause water droplets stick more to its surface.
Possible Solutions
Briefly open the door
I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) almost dry.
After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better so that the least amount of heat is lost), immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.
Leave it open for a few brief seconds, long enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost. This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.
After that close the door again and let it sit for a while. Ten to twenty minutes is probably more than enough if you want to get it done as soon as possible; otherwise just let it sit for as long as you like after that.
This would ensure that most items will be either almost dry or have a minimum amount of water when you return to unload the dishwasher.
Shake Plastic Items
One other thing you may do in parallel to what's described above, (which can be more of a hassle to accomplish), is after opening the door, individually grab any plastic objects and one by one give them a vigorously shake to loosen any droplets on its surface.
If your ratio of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority keeping hassle to a minimum. One or two shakes per item should be enough, just let them splash into the sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the surface water off; then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most residual humidity.
As mentioned in the comments, if you have no delicate items that may break, you can also just give the whole rack a shake instead. Items with intricate designs or crevices that pool water may still benefit from a good individual shake.
2
Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
9
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
1
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
1
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Causes
According to this article the problem seems mainly two fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.
During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and help with cleaning.
Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus gaining heat slower leading to less evaporation.
Thermal Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense than other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining less heat, and conserving less energy, thus remaining warm for shorter periods, again promoting less evaporation.
There may also be other factors at work; surface properties of plastics like roughness may also cause water droplets stick more to its surface.
Possible Solutions
Briefly open the door
I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) almost dry.
After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better so that the least amount of heat is lost), immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.
Leave it open for a few brief seconds, long enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost. This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.
After that close the door again and let it sit for a while. Ten to twenty minutes is probably more than enough if you want to get it done as soon as possible; otherwise just let it sit for as long as you like after that.
This would ensure that most items will be either almost dry or have a minimum amount of water when you return to unload the dishwasher.
Shake Plastic Items
One other thing you may do in parallel to what's described above, (which can be more of a hassle to accomplish), is after opening the door, individually grab any plastic objects and one by one give them a vigorously shake to loosen any droplets on its surface.
If your ratio of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority keeping hassle to a minimum. One or two shakes per item should be enough, just let them splash into the sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the surface water off; then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most residual humidity.
As mentioned in the comments, if you have no delicate items that may break, you can also just give the whole rack a shake instead. Items with intricate designs or crevices that pool water may still benefit from a good individual shake.
2
Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
9
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
1
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
1
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Causes
According to this article the problem seems mainly two fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.
During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and help with cleaning.
Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus gaining heat slower leading to less evaporation.
Thermal Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense than other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining less heat, and conserving less energy, thus remaining warm for shorter periods, again promoting less evaporation.
There may also be other factors at work; surface properties of plastics like roughness may also cause water droplets stick more to its surface.
Possible Solutions
Briefly open the door
I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) almost dry.
After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better so that the least amount of heat is lost), immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.
Leave it open for a few brief seconds, long enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost. This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.
After that close the door again and let it sit for a while. Ten to twenty minutes is probably more than enough if you want to get it done as soon as possible; otherwise just let it sit for as long as you like after that.
This would ensure that most items will be either almost dry or have a minimum amount of water when you return to unload the dishwasher.
Shake Plastic Items
One other thing you may do in parallel to what's described above, (which can be more of a hassle to accomplish), is after opening the door, individually grab any plastic objects and one by one give them a vigorously shake to loosen any droplets on its surface.
If your ratio of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority keeping hassle to a minimum. One or two shakes per item should be enough, just let them splash into the sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the surface water off; then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most residual humidity.
As mentioned in the comments, if you have no delicate items that may break, you can also just give the whole rack a shake instead. Items with intricate designs or crevices that pool water may still benefit from a good individual shake.
Causes
According to this article the problem seems mainly two fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.
During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and help with cleaning.
Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus gaining heat slower leading to less evaporation.
Thermal Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense than other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining less heat, and conserving less energy, thus remaining warm for shorter periods, again promoting less evaporation.
There may also be other factors at work; surface properties of plastics like roughness may also cause water droplets stick more to its surface.
Possible Solutions
Briefly open the door
I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) almost dry.
After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better so that the least amount of heat is lost), immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.
Leave it open for a few brief seconds, long enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost. This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.
After that close the door again and let it sit for a while. Ten to twenty minutes is probably more than enough if you want to get it done as soon as possible; otherwise just let it sit for as long as you like after that.
This would ensure that most items will be either almost dry or have a minimum amount of water when you return to unload the dishwasher.
Shake Plastic Items
One other thing you may do in parallel to what's described above, (which can be more of a hassle to accomplish), is after opening the door, individually grab any plastic objects and one by one give them a vigorously shake to loosen any droplets on its surface.
If your ratio of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority keeping hassle to a minimum. One or two shakes per item should be enough, just let them splash into the sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the surface water off; then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most residual humidity.
As mentioned in the comments, if you have no delicate items that may break, you can also just give the whole rack a shake instead. Items with intricate designs or crevices that pool water may still benefit from a good individual shake.
edited 44 mins ago
answered 18 hours ago
Duarte Farrajota Ramos
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Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
9
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
1
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
1
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
2
Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
9
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
1
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
1
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
2
2
Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
– user3190797
18 hours ago
9
9
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
– elliot svensson
17 hours ago
1
1
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
@elliotsvensson True that also works in most cases, though the individual shake is probably more effective, especially if the items have intricate designs with crevices or shapes that accumulate water
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
15 hours ago
1
1
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Tussle the Tupperware, shake both drawers and then pull them all the way out to finish drying.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
Don't open the door all the way. Open it a little, shake the top rack vigorously, then leave the top rack pulled out a little so the door is ajar. This will let steam pour out while not cooling the inside as fast as having the door fully open. The darn good shake of the top rack also helps if there are hollows on the bottoms of mugs that have water in them.
– Kate Gregory
13 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).
The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.
Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.
Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.
4
Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
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@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
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In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).
The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.
Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.
Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.
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Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
3
@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
add a comment |
In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).
The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.
Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.
Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.
In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).
The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.
Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.
Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.
answered 17 hours ago
leftaroundabout
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Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
3
@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
add a comment |
4
Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
3
@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
4
4
Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
Hydrophobic surfaces also explain why non stick pan's can have beads of water on the inside while the outside is dry at the end of the cycle.
– Chris H
16 hours ago
3
3
@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
@ChrisH, on the other hand, the hydrophobic coating of non-stick pans also means you can dry them with a quick shake. Plastics aren't hydrophobic enough for that to work.
– Mark
15 hours ago
add a comment |
There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.
Some options to help in no particular order:
- Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.
- Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)
- Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the upper racks spilling onto the lower dishes.
- Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.
As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.
Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
add a comment |
There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.
Some options to help in no particular order:
- Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.
- Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)
- Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the upper racks spilling onto the lower dishes.
- Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.
As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.
Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
add a comment |
There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.
Some options to help in no particular order:
- Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.
- Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)
- Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the upper racks spilling onto the lower dishes.
- Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.
As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.
There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.
Some options to help in no particular order:
- Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.
- Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)
- Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the upper racks spilling onto the lower dishes.
- Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.
As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.
edited 12 hours ago
Duarte Farrajota Ramos
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745212
answered 19 hours ago
bruglesco
2,1221618
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Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
Took the liberty to fix, I think you meant upper racks. Feel free to roll back if not
– Duarte Farrajota Ramos
14 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
@DuarteFarrajotaRamos thanks
– bruglesco
10 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
Your suggestion to use a rinse-aid directly contradicts leftaroundabout's answer, where he suggests that repelling water is the problem.
– Martin Bonner
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Why do plastic utensils ... I thought for sure this was going to be about Tupperware.
– Mazura
15 hours ago
@Mazura Of course this is also about Tupperware. Not every plastic utensil in our kitchen carries that brand name though ;)
– Tinkeringbell
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