Realistically, does Leomund’s Tiny Hut allow for indefinite long rests in a dungeon?
I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this, but the more I read into Leomund’s tiny hut, the more it looks like it’s a spell designed entirely around taking free long rests in dungeons, or anywhere really. This seems game-breaking to me.
What truly boggles my mind is the idea that you can potentially chain tiny huts together with multiple casters, literally living inside of a hostile dungeon if they choose to, especially since practically nothing can damage the hut, or its inhabitants. Maybe even a single caster can chain this spell.
Part of the description of Leomund’s tiny hut says:
Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely. All other creatures and objects are barred from passing through it. Spells and other magical effects can't extend through the dome or be cast through it. The atmosphere inside the space is comfortable and dry, regardless of the weather outside.
Until the spell ends, you can command the interior to become dimly lit or dark. The dome is opaque from the outside, of any color you choose, but it is transparent from the inside.
Take this example, for instance:
Three adventurers decide they’ve had enough and instead decide to live inside a goblin-infested ruin. The first wizard casts Leomund’s tiny hut while the other wizard creates food and drink. The ranger makes goodberries. They nap for 6 hours and then the other wizard prepares to cast another tiny hut, overlapping perfectly with the duration of the other Hut.
Rinse, repeat; dozens of goblins now line up around the hut, curious at the bizarre obstruction at their camp, that never goes away, as it is literally indestructible.
Can the above scenario go on like that forever? I understand this site disallows questions about intent, but is this a correct usage of this spell?
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I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this, but the more I read into Leomund’s tiny hut, the more it looks like it’s a spell designed entirely around taking free long rests in dungeons, or anywhere really. This seems game-breaking to me.
What truly boggles my mind is the idea that you can potentially chain tiny huts together with multiple casters, literally living inside of a hostile dungeon if they choose to, especially since practically nothing can damage the hut, or its inhabitants. Maybe even a single caster can chain this spell.
Part of the description of Leomund’s tiny hut says:
Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely. All other creatures and objects are barred from passing through it. Spells and other magical effects can't extend through the dome or be cast through it. The atmosphere inside the space is comfortable and dry, regardless of the weather outside.
Until the spell ends, you can command the interior to become dimly lit or dark. The dome is opaque from the outside, of any color you choose, but it is transparent from the inside.
Take this example, for instance:
Three adventurers decide they’ve had enough and instead decide to live inside a goblin-infested ruin. The first wizard casts Leomund’s tiny hut while the other wizard creates food and drink. The ranger makes goodberries. They nap for 6 hours and then the other wizard prepares to cast another tiny hut, overlapping perfectly with the duration of the other Hut.
Rinse, repeat; dozens of goblins now line up around the hut, curious at the bizarre obstruction at their camp, that never goes away, as it is literally indestructible.
Can the above scenario go on like that forever? I understand this site disallows questions about intent, but is this a correct usage of this spell?
dnd-5e spells balance rests
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Related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/106781 - People (other than caster) can shoot from inside the hut. Disclosure: It is my question.
– Mindwin
Dec 17 at 16:08
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Strikes me as much more odd that objects can pass from the inside to the outside. Which means casting Tiny Hut prior to picking up a fight with an army of 5,000 orcs is a safe bet prodivded that you brought a couple of full quivers and a bow. Or, a few long spears, for that matter. Can grind down pretty much every opponent no matter how big as long as you have him cornered with the spell.
– Damon
Dec 18 at 13:12
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I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this, but the more I read into Leomund’s tiny hut, the more it looks like it’s a spell designed entirely around taking free long rests in dungeons, or anywhere really. This seems game-breaking to me.
What truly boggles my mind is the idea that you can potentially chain tiny huts together with multiple casters, literally living inside of a hostile dungeon if they choose to, especially since practically nothing can damage the hut, or its inhabitants. Maybe even a single caster can chain this spell.
Part of the description of Leomund’s tiny hut says:
Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely. All other creatures and objects are barred from passing through it. Spells and other magical effects can't extend through the dome or be cast through it. The atmosphere inside the space is comfortable and dry, regardless of the weather outside.
Until the spell ends, you can command the interior to become dimly lit or dark. The dome is opaque from the outside, of any color you choose, but it is transparent from the inside.
Take this example, for instance:
Three adventurers decide they’ve had enough and instead decide to live inside a goblin-infested ruin. The first wizard casts Leomund’s tiny hut while the other wizard creates food and drink. The ranger makes goodberries. They nap for 6 hours and then the other wizard prepares to cast another tiny hut, overlapping perfectly with the duration of the other Hut.
Rinse, repeat; dozens of goblins now line up around the hut, curious at the bizarre obstruction at their camp, that never goes away, as it is literally indestructible.
Can the above scenario go on like that forever? I understand this site disallows questions about intent, but is this a correct usage of this spell?
dnd-5e spells balance rests
edited Dec 17 at 1:31
Sdjz
11k45196
asked Dec 16 at 9:25
Nicbobo
1,551733
I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this, but the more I read into Leomund’s tiny hut, the more it looks like it’s a spell designed entirely around taking free long rests in dungeons, or anywhere really. This seems game-breaking to me.
What truly boggles my mind is the idea that you can potentially chain tiny huts together with multiple casters, literally living inside of a hostile dungeon if they choose to, especially since practically nothing can damage the hut, or its inhabitants. Maybe even a single caster can chain this spell.
Part of the description of Leomund’s tiny hut says:
Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely. All other creatures and objects are barred from passing through it. Spells and other magical effects can't extend through the dome or be cast through it. The atmosphere inside the space is comfortable and dry, regardless of the weather outside.
Until the spell ends, you can command the interior to become dimly lit or dark. The dome is opaque from the outside, of any color you choose, but it is transparent from the inside.
Take this example, for instance:
Three adventurers decide they’ve had enough and instead decide to live inside a goblin-infested ruin. The first wizard casts Leomund’s tiny hut while the other wizard creates food and drink. The ranger makes goodberries. They nap for 6 hours and then the other wizard prepares to cast another tiny hut, overlapping perfectly with the duration of the other Hut.
Rinse, repeat; dozens of goblins now line up around the hut, curious at the bizarre obstruction at their camp, that never goes away, as it is literally indestructible.
Can the above scenario go on like that forever? I understand this site disallows questions about intent, but is this a correct usage of this spell?
dnd-5e spells balance rests
dnd-5e spells balance rests
edited Dec 17 at 1:31
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Sdjz
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Sdjz
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edited Dec 17 at 1:31
Sdjz
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edited Dec 17 at 1:31
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Related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/106781 - People (other than caster) can shoot from inside the hut. Disclosure: It is my question.
– Mindwin
Dec 17 at 16:08
2
Strikes me as much more odd that objects can pass from the inside to the outside. Which means casting Tiny Hut prior to picking up a fight with an army of 5,000 orcs is a safe bet prodivded that you brought a couple of full quivers and a bow. Or, a few long spears, for that matter. Can grind down pretty much every opponent no matter how big as long as you have him cornered with the spell.
– Damon
Dec 18 at 13:12
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Related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/106781 - People (other than caster) can shoot from inside the hut. Disclosure: It is my question.
– Mindwin
Dec 17 at 16:08
2
Strikes me as much more odd that objects can pass from the inside to the outside. Which means casting Tiny Hut prior to picking up a fight with an army of 5,000 orcs is a safe bet prodivded that you brought a couple of full quivers and a bow. Or, a few long spears, for that matter. Can grind down pretty much every opponent no matter how big as long as you have him cornered with the spell.
– Damon
Dec 18 at 13:12
2
2
Related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/106781 - People (other than caster) can shoot from inside the hut. Disclosure: It is my question.
– Mindwin
Dec 17 at 16:08
Related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/106781 - People (other than caster) can shoot from inside the hut. Disclosure: It is my question.
– Mindwin
Dec 17 at 16:08
2
2
Strikes me as much more odd that objects can pass from the inside to the outside. Which means casting Tiny Hut prior to picking up a fight with an army of 5,000 orcs is a safe bet prodivded that you brought a couple of full quivers and a bow. Or, a few long spears, for that matter. Can grind down pretty much every opponent no matter how big as long as you have him cornered with the spell.
– Damon
Dec 18 at 13:12
Strikes me as much more odd that objects can pass from the inside to the outside. Which means casting Tiny Hut prior to picking up a fight with an army of 5,000 orcs is a safe bet prodivded that you brought a couple of full quivers and a bow. Or, a few long spears, for that matter. Can grind down pretty much every opponent no matter how big as long as you have him cornered with the spell.
– Damon
Dec 18 at 13:12
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The spell enables relatively secure resting in dangerous places
You are correct that, on the whole this spell enables the party to rest securely knowing that they will not be murdered by the most common dungeon dangers while they sleep. They are safe from spells, creatures and objects that may try to encroach into their safety bubble.
Creatures can even fire projectiles through the sphere from the inside which makes it a very powerful defensive option. Of course, it seems that this is exactly the use case that this spell was made for.
However it is not mechanically perfect
Dispel Magic
When facing high enough level enemies and/or given enough time, many enemies could come up with a way to dispel the leomund's tiny hut. As a spell it is still very susceptible to this and there would be no way to counterspell the dispel from inside the hut.
It doesn't protect against everything
There are things that are in dungeons that can produce effects that are neither spells, magical effects, objects, or creatures. For example, a dragon's breath weapon falls into none of these categories and thus would go right through the hut and start roasting the party.
Staying indefinitely might be possible, but is not a good idea
The longer they stay, the more enemies can prepare for when they inevitably leave
Presumably, the party has something they should be doing. The outside world does not wait while the party hides in their relatively safe house. McGuffins get moved, princesses get moved to other castles, additional pylons fail to get constructed. Regardless of the nature of their goals, presumably they are not going to be happy living in a 10ft radius sphere for the rest of their lives. They must move forward at some point or the story fails.
And the longer they stay in the hut the more time the enemies outside have to prepare. Presumably the party has set up shop in an area that they don't belong in and whose inhabitants would much rather they leave. They aren't just going to give up and accept this new resident. Thus, goblins having failed to assault the house directly will likely set up barriers/traps/or assaults on and around the house for when the party does eventually come out. The longer the party waits, the more elaborate the traps and the more enemies get stationed there to make sure the eviction sticks. And of course the party can see this all from inside the sphere.
What goes in must come out
From a slightly less mechanical standpoint still, there are challenges to living with 4 people you may or may not be close to in a relatively small area for long periods of time. Even though everyone except the caster can leave the sphere, if there are enemies or danger outside that they are hiding from they are obviously not going to want to. If there is no danger then there is no real reason to have the spell going at all.
Boredom sets in, tensions run high. There's no privacy. Characters are not going to want to or enjoy staying in this way for longer than they have to.
There's also the matter of all the food and drink that the creatures are consuming are becoming waste and that cannot leave the sphere. That is going to get really smelly really quickly.
answered Dec 16 at 18:49
Rubiksmoose
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
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@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
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A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
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With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
– linhartr22
Dec 20 at 2:21
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Yes, right up to the point where the goblins go fetch their shaman to cast Dispel Magic and fill the adventurers full of arrows.
The downside of your scenario is it hands all the strategic initiative to everyone outside the hut.
answered Dec 16 at 10:03
Dale M
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
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You might not be able to rest
If the goblins know what a leomund's tiny hut is then they know they can't get in. They also know that their sound can.
They park their worst bards close to the hut and let loose with the worst "music" (in very big air quotes) they can produce. For hour after hour after hour. No-one in that hut is getting any rest.
Alternatively, they cover the hut in garbage and refuse. The people inside spend the next 8 hours looking at disgusting stuff slowly running down the dome. They can't smell it (depending on how you rule "comfortable" atmosphere) but they can certainly see it. Also, there is the sure knowledge that in 8 hours, all that disgusting stuff is going to be landing on their heads and clothes and gear. Again, not very restful.
Much simpler, the goblin pile rocks on the dome. When the dome ends, rocks fall, everyone dies.
In summary, leomund's tiny hut is a great place to rest but it is not perfect.
answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
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"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
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@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
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@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
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@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
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Short answer - yes (with exceptions as noted in other answers).
However, everything has its cost. Take this scenario that happened to a friend's group.
In a certain campaign, a party of adventurers was about to encounter a cult partaking in evil rituals. About to face presumably inevitable combat, they decided to have a long rest inside their convenient Tiny Hut.
Rested and restored - they proceeded up the mountain to find... nobody. In the time they were resting, the cult's ritual had been completed and they had packed up and moved on. The sacrifice was made, and the demon already summoned. The adventurers missed out on the opportunity to prevent this because of a critical resource they had unknowingly depleted during their rest:
Time.
Leomund's Tiny Hut is certainly a 'cheap' way to rest - but nothing is ever free.
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
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Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
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Sure. Then you tell your players to roll new characters because these ones decided to never leave a 10 ft. dome and live there. Especially since the longer they are there the more time goblins have to make barricades around the dome and the more reinforcements come in.
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
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If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
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If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
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The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
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The spell enables relatively secure resting in dangerous places
You are correct that, on the whole this spell enables the party to rest securely knowing that they will not be murdered by the most common dungeon dangers while they sleep. They are safe from spells, creatures and objects that may try to encroach into their safety bubble.
Creatures can even fire projectiles through the sphere from the inside which makes it a very powerful defensive option. Of course, it seems that this is exactly the use case that this spell was made for.
However it is not mechanically perfect
Dispel Magic
When facing high enough level enemies and/or given enough time, many enemies could come up with a way to dispel the leomund's tiny hut. As a spell it is still very susceptible to this and there would be no way to counterspell the dispel from inside the hut.
It doesn't protect against everything
There are things that are in dungeons that can produce effects that are neither spells, magical effects, objects, or creatures. For example, a dragon's breath weapon falls into none of these categories and thus would go right through the hut and start roasting the party.
Staying indefinitely might be possible, but is not a good idea
The longer they stay, the more enemies can prepare for when they inevitably leave
Presumably, the party has something they should be doing. The outside world does not wait while the party hides in their relatively safe house. McGuffins get moved, princesses get moved to other castles, additional pylons fail to get constructed. Regardless of the nature of their goals, presumably they are not going to be happy living in a 10ft radius sphere for the rest of their lives. They must move forward at some point or the story fails.
And the longer they stay in the hut the more time the enemies outside have to prepare. Presumably the party has set up shop in an area that they don't belong in and whose inhabitants would much rather they leave. They aren't just going to give up and accept this new resident. Thus, goblins having failed to assault the house directly will likely set up barriers/traps/or assaults on and around the house for when the party does eventually come out. The longer the party waits, the more elaborate the traps and the more enemies get stationed there to make sure the eviction sticks. And of course the party can see this all from inside the sphere.
What goes in must come out
From a slightly less mechanical standpoint still, there are challenges to living with 4 people you may or may not be close to in a relatively small area for long periods of time. Even though everyone except the caster can leave the sphere, if there are enemies or danger outside that they are hiding from they are obviously not going to want to. If there is no danger then there is no real reason to have the spell going at all.
Boredom sets in, tensions run high. There's no privacy. Characters are not going to want to or enjoy staying in this way for longer than they have to.
There's also the matter of all the food and drink that the creatures are consuming are becoming waste and that cannot leave the sphere. That is going to get really smelly really quickly.
answered Dec 16 at 18:49
Rubiksmoose
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Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
1
Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
1
@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
1
A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
1
With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
– linhartr22
Dec 20 at 2:21
|
show 1 more comment
The spell enables relatively secure resting in dangerous places
You are correct that, on the whole this spell enables the party to rest securely knowing that they will not be murdered by the most common dungeon dangers while they sleep. They are safe from spells, creatures and objects that may try to encroach into their safety bubble.
Creatures can even fire projectiles through the sphere from the inside which makes it a very powerful defensive option. Of course, it seems that this is exactly the use case that this spell was made for.
However it is not mechanically perfect
Dispel Magic
When facing high enough level enemies and/or given enough time, many enemies could come up with a way to dispel the leomund's tiny hut. As a spell it is still very susceptible to this and there would be no way to counterspell the dispel from inside the hut.
It doesn't protect against everything
There are things that are in dungeons that can produce effects that are neither spells, magical effects, objects, or creatures. For example, a dragon's breath weapon falls into none of these categories and thus would go right through the hut and start roasting the party.
Staying indefinitely might be possible, but is not a good idea
The longer they stay, the more enemies can prepare for when they inevitably leave
Presumably, the party has something they should be doing. The outside world does not wait while the party hides in their relatively safe house. McGuffins get moved, princesses get moved to other castles, additional pylons fail to get constructed. Regardless of the nature of their goals, presumably they are not going to be happy living in a 10ft radius sphere for the rest of their lives. They must move forward at some point or the story fails.
And the longer they stay in the hut the more time the enemies outside have to prepare. Presumably the party has set up shop in an area that they don't belong in and whose inhabitants would much rather they leave. They aren't just going to give up and accept this new resident. Thus, goblins having failed to assault the house directly will likely set up barriers/traps/or assaults on and around the house for when the party does eventually come out. The longer the party waits, the more elaborate the traps and the more enemies get stationed there to make sure the eviction sticks. And of course the party can see this all from inside the sphere.
What goes in must come out
From a slightly less mechanical standpoint still, there are challenges to living with 4 people you may or may not be close to in a relatively small area for long periods of time. Even though everyone except the caster can leave the sphere, if there are enemies or danger outside that they are hiding from they are obviously not going to want to. If there is no danger then there is no real reason to have the spell going at all.
Boredom sets in, tensions run high. There's no privacy. Characters are not going to want to or enjoy staying in this way for longer than they have to.
There's also the matter of all the food and drink that the creatures are consuming are becoming waste and that cannot leave the sphere. That is going to get really smelly really quickly.
answered Dec 16 at 18:49
Rubiksmoose
47.8k6237362
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
1
Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
1
@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
1
A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
1
With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
– linhartr22
Dec 20 at 2:21
|
show 1 more comment
The spell enables relatively secure resting in dangerous places
You are correct that, on the whole this spell enables the party to rest securely knowing that they will not be murdered by the most common dungeon dangers while they sleep. They are safe from spells, creatures and objects that may try to encroach into their safety bubble.
Creatures can even fire projectiles through the sphere from the inside which makes it a very powerful defensive option. Of course, it seems that this is exactly the use case that this spell was made for.
However it is not mechanically perfect
Dispel Magic
When facing high enough level enemies and/or given enough time, many enemies could come up with a way to dispel the leomund's tiny hut. As a spell it is still very susceptible to this and there would be no way to counterspell the dispel from inside the hut.
It doesn't protect against everything
There are things that are in dungeons that can produce effects that are neither spells, magical effects, objects, or creatures. For example, a dragon's breath weapon falls into none of these categories and thus would go right through the hut and start roasting the party.
Staying indefinitely might be possible, but is not a good idea
The longer they stay, the more enemies can prepare for when they inevitably leave
Presumably, the party has something they should be doing. The outside world does not wait while the party hides in their relatively safe house. McGuffins get moved, princesses get moved to other castles, additional pylons fail to get constructed. Regardless of the nature of their goals, presumably they are not going to be happy living in a 10ft radius sphere for the rest of their lives. They must move forward at some point or the story fails.
And the longer they stay in the hut the more time the enemies outside have to prepare. Presumably the party has set up shop in an area that they don't belong in and whose inhabitants would much rather they leave. They aren't just going to give up and accept this new resident. Thus, goblins having failed to assault the house directly will likely set up barriers/traps/or assaults on and around the house for when the party does eventually come out. The longer the party waits, the more elaborate the traps and the more enemies get stationed there to make sure the eviction sticks. And of course the party can see this all from inside the sphere.
What goes in must come out
From a slightly less mechanical standpoint still, there are challenges to living with 4 people you may or may not be close to in a relatively small area for long periods of time. Even though everyone except the caster can leave the sphere, if there are enemies or danger outside that they are hiding from they are obviously not going to want to. If there is no danger then there is no real reason to have the spell going at all.
Boredom sets in, tensions run high. There's no privacy. Characters are not going to want to or enjoy staying in this way for longer than they have to.
There's also the matter of all the food and drink that the creatures are consuming are becoming waste and that cannot leave the sphere. That is going to get really smelly really quickly.
answered Dec 16 at 18:49
Rubiksmoose
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The spell enables relatively secure resting in dangerous places
You are correct that, on the whole this spell enables the party to rest securely knowing that they will not be murdered by the most common dungeon dangers while they sleep. They are safe from spells, creatures and objects that may try to encroach into their safety bubble.
Creatures can even fire projectiles through the sphere from the inside which makes it a very powerful defensive option. Of course, it seems that this is exactly the use case that this spell was made for.
However it is not mechanically perfect
Dispel Magic
When facing high enough level enemies and/or given enough time, many enemies could come up with a way to dispel the leomund's tiny hut. As a spell it is still very susceptible to this and there would be no way to counterspell the dispel from inside the hut.
It doesn't protect against everything
There are things that are in dungeons that can produce effects that are neither spells, magical effects, objects, or creatures. For example, a dragon's breath weapon falls into none of these categories and thus would go right through the hut and start roasting the party.
Staying indefinitely might be possible, but is not a good idea
The longer they stay, the more enemies can prepare for when they inevitably leave
Presumably, the party has something they should be doing. The outside world does not wait while the party hides in their relatively safe house. McGuffins get moved, princesses get moved to other castles, additional pylons fail to get constructed. Regardless of the nature of their goals, presumably they are not going to be happy living in a 10ft radius sphere for the rest of their lives. They must move forward at some point or the story fails.
And the longer they stay in the hut the more time the enemies outside have to prepare. Presumably the party has set up shop in an area that they don't belong in and whose inhabitants would much rather they leave. They aren't just going to give up and accept this new resident. Thus, goblins having failed to assault the house directly will likely set up barriers/traps/or assaults on and around the house for when the party does eventually come out. The longer the party waits, the more elaborate the traps and the more enemies get stationed there to make sure the eviction sticks. And of course the party can see this all from inside the sphere.
What goes in must come out
From a slightly less mechanical standpoint still, there are challenges to living with 4 people you may or may not be close to in a relatively small area for long periods of time. Even though everyone except the caster can leave the sphere, if there are enemies or danger outside that they are hiding from they are obviously not going to want to. If there is no danger then there is no real reason to have the spell going at all.
Boredom sets in, tensions run high. There's no privacy. Characters are not going to want to or enjoy staying in this way for longer than they have to.
There's also the matter of all the food and drink that the creatures are consuming are becoming waste and that cannot leave the sphere. That is going to get really smelly really quickly.
answered Dec 16 at 18:49
Rubiksmoose
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answered Dec 16 at 18:49
Rubiksmoose
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answered Dec 16 at 18:49
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
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@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
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A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
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With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
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@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
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A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
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With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
– linhartr22
Dec 20 at 2:21
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– mxyzplk♦
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– mxyzplk♦
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Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
Are we sure a breath weapon is neither magical nor an object? If it's not a magical effect, it's likely some sort of substance, whethe solid, liquid, or gas. Do objects in D&D need to be solid?
– Obie 2.0
Dec 18 at 2:18
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@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
@Obie2.0 we are sure. It is explicitly not a magical effect per the Sage Advice Compendium and the effect does not say it creates any type of object or substance so it doesn't.
– Rubiksmoose
Dec 18 at 2:52
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A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
A party sitting in a dungeon can only watch through their forcefield as a truck full of concrete slowly backs up to the casing the goblins have built around the dome...
– Borgh
Dec 19 at 7:46
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With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
– linhartr22
Dec 20 at 2:21
With regard to the solid waste, projectiles can leave the dome.
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Yes, right up to the point where the goblins go fetch their shaman to cast Dispel Magic and fill the adventurers full of arrows.
The downside of your scenario is it hands all the strategic initiative to everyone outside the hut.
answered Dec 16 at 10:03
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
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Yes, right up to the point where the goblins go fetch their shaman to cast Dispel Magic and fill the adventurers full of arrows.
The downside of your scenario is it hands all the strategic initiative to everyone outside the hut.
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– mxyzplk♦
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They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
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Yes, right up to the point where the goblins go fetch their shaman to cast Dispel Magic and fill the adventurers full of arrows.
The downside of your scenario is it hands all the strategic initiative to everyone outside the hut.
answered Dec 16 at 10:03
Dale M
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Yes, right up to the point where the goblins go fetch their shaman to cast Dispel Magic and fill the adventurers full of arrows.
The downside of your scenario is it hands all the strategic initiative to everyone outside the hut.
answered Dec 16 at 10:03
Dale M
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answered Dec 16 at 10:03
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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– mxyzplk♦
Dec 17 at 13:00
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They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
They don't need their shaman, they can just build a platform on top of the hut and continue to place a pile of large rocks on top... and then wait for the entertaining moment the spell ends.
– Quaternion
Dec 17 at 23:49
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You might not be able to rest
If the goblins know what a leomund's tiny hut is then they know they can't get in. They also know that their sound can.
They park their worst bards close to the hut and let loose with the worst "music" (in very big air quotes) they can produce. For hour after hour after hour. No-one in that hut is getting any rest.
Alternatively, they cover the hut in garbage and refuse. The people inside spend the next 8 hours looking at disgusting stuff slowly running down the dome. They can't smell it (depending on how you rule "comfortable" atmosphere) but they can certainly see it. Also, there is the sure knowledge that in 8 hours, all that disgusting stuff is going to be landing on their heads and clothes and gear. Again, not very restful.
Much simpler, the goblin pile rocks on the dome. When the dome ends, rocks fall, everyone dies.
In summary, leomund's tiny hut is a great place to rest but it is not perfect.
answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
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"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
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@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
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@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
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@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
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You might not be able to rest
If the goblins know what a leomund's tiny hut is then they know they can't get in. They also know that their sound can.
They park their worst bards close to the hut and let loose with the worst "music" (in very big air quotes) they can produce. For hour after hour after hour. No-one in that hut is getting any rest.
Alternatively, they cover the hut in garbage and refuse. The people inside spend the next 8 hours looking at disgusting stuff slowly running down the dome. They can't smell it (depending on how you rule "comfortable" atmosphere) but they can certainly see it. Also, there is the sure knowledge that in 8 hours, all that disgusting stuff is going to be landing on their heads and clothes and gear. Again, not very restful.
Much simpler, the goblin pile rocks on the dome. When the dome ends, rocks fall, everyone dies.
In summary, leomund's tiny hut is a great place to rest but it is not perfect.
answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
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"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
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@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
1
@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
6
@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
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You might not be able to rest
If the goblins know what a leomund's tiny hut is then they know they can't get in. They also know that their sound can.
They park their worst bards close to the hut and let loose with the worst "music" (in very big air quotes) they can produce. For hour after hour after hour. No-one in that hut is getting any rest.
Alternatively, they cover the hut in garbage and refuse. The people inside spend the next 8 hours looking at disgusting stuff slowly running down the dome. They can't smell it (depending on how you rule "comfortable" atmosphere) but they can certainly see it. Also, there is the sure knowledge that in 8 hours, all that disgusting stuff is going to be landing on their heads and clothes and gear. Again, not very restful.
Much simpler, the goblin pile rocks on the dome. When the dome ends, rocks fall, everyone dies.
In summary, leomund's tiny hut is a great place to rest but it is not perfect.
answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
13.8k2866
You might not be able to rest
If the goblins know what a leomund's tiny hut is then they know they can't get in. They also know that their sound can.
They park their worst bards close to the hut and let loose with the worst "music" (in very big air quotes) they can produce. For hour after hour after hour. No-one in that hut is getting any rest.
Alternatively, they cover the hut in garbage and refuse. The people inside spend the next 8 hours looking at disgusting stuff slowly running down the dome. They can't smell it (depending on how you rule "comfortable" atmosphere) but they can certainly see it. Also, there is the sure knowledge that in 8 hours, all that disgusting stuff is going to be landing on their heads and clothes and gear. Again, not very restful.
Much simpler, the goblin pile rocks on the dome. When the dome ends, rocks fall, everyone dies.
In summary, leomund's tiny hut is a great place to rest but it is not perfect.
answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
13.8k2866
edited Dec 17 at 1:04
answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
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answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
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answered Dec 17 at 0:12
Greenstone Walker
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"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
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@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
1
@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
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@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
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"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
1
@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
1
@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
6
@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
2
2
"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
"They can't smell it" - I mean, nothing says smells don't get through the dome... :P
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 0:51
1
1
@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
@V2BLast The caster can't leave the hut for 8 hours so I figure Leomund would have done something to mask the "bio" requirements of the caster. :-)
– Greenstone Walker
Dec 17 at 1:03
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
You know, that's something I never thought about... And now I'm not sure I want to.
– V2Blast
Dec 17 at 1:34
1
1
@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
@GreenstoneWalker can't he? The spell description in the op says: "Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely" I took it to mean they can pass through the dome's walls at will?
– Gnudiff
Dec 17 at 8:37
6
6
@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
@GreenstoneWalker There is the little known cantrip "Leomunds Tiny Diaper".
– Yakk
Dec 17 at 15:35
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Short answer - yes (with exceptions as noted in other answers).
However, everything has its cost. Take this scenario that happened to a friend's group.
In a certain campaign, a party of adventurers was about to encounter a cult partaking in evil rituals. About to face presumably inevitable combat, they decided to have a long rest inside their convenient Tiny Hut.
Rested and restored - they proceeded up the mountain to find... nobody. In the time they were resting, the cult's ritual had been completed and they had packed up and moved on. The sacrifice was made, and the demon already summoned. The adventurers missed out on the opportunity to prevent this because of a critical resource they had unknowingly depleted during their rest:
Time.
Leomund's Tiny Hut is certainly a 'cheap' way to rest - but nothing is ever free.
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
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Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
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Short answer - yes (with exceptions as noted in other answers).
However, everything has its cost. Take this scenario that happened to a friend's group.
In a certain campaign, a party of adventurers was about to encounter a cult partaking in evil rituals. About to face presumably inevitable combat, they decided to have a long rest inside their convenient Tiny Hut.
Rested and restored - they proceeded up the mountain to find... nobody. In the time they were resting, the cult's ritual had been completed and they had packed up and moved on. The sacrifice was made, and the demon already summoned. The adventurers missed out on the opportunity to prevent this because of a critical resource they had unknowingly depleted during their rest:
Time.
Leomund's Tiny Hut is certainly a 'cheap' way to rest - but nothing is ever free.
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
626313
1
Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
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Short answer - yes (with exceptions as noted in other answers).
However, everything has its cost. Take this scenario that happened to a friend's group.
In a certain campaign, a party of adventurers was about to encounter a cult partaking in evil rituals. About to face presumably inevitable combat, they decided to have a long rest inside their convenient Tiny Hut.
Rested and restored - they proceeded up the mountain to find... nobody. In the time they were resting, the cult's ritual had been completed and they had packed up and moved on. The sacrifice was made, and the demon already summoned. The adventurers missed out on the opportunity to prevent this because of a critical resource they had unknowingly depleted during their rest:
Time.
Leomund's Tiny Hut is certainly a 'cheap' way to rest - but nothing is ever free.
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
626313
Short answer - yes (with exceptions as noted in other answers).
However, everything has its cost. Take this scenario that happened to a friend's group.
In a certain campaign, a party of adventurers was about to encounter a cult partaking in evil rituals. About to face presumably inevitable combat, they decided to have a long rest inside their convenient Tiny Hut.
Rested and restored - they proceeded up the mountain to find... nobody. In the time they were resting, the cult's ritual had been completed and they had packed up and moved on. The sacrifice was made, and the demon already summoned. The adventurers missed out on the opportunity to prevent this because of a critical resource they had unknowingly depleted during their rest:
Time.
Leomund's Tiny Hut is certainly a 'cheap' way to rest - but nothing is ever free.
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
626313
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
626313
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
626313
answered Dec 17 at 0:52
Shadow
626313
626313
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Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
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Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
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Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
Good catch. Time flies like an arrow, and can be just as painful. (Fruit flies like a banana.)
– Codes with Hammer
Dec 17 at 17:03
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Sure. Then you tell your players to roll new characters because these ones decided to never leave a 10 ft. dome and live there. Especially since the longer they are there the more time goblins have to make barricades around the dome and the more reinforcements come in.
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
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If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
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If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
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The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
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Sure. Then you tell your players to roll new characters because these ones decided to never leave a 10 ft. dome and live there. Especially since the longer they are there the more time goblins have to make barricades around the dome and the more reinforcements come in.
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
2935
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If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
7
If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
6
The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
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Sure. Then you tell your players to roll new characters because these ones decided to never leave a 10 ft. dome and live there. Especially since the longer they are there the more time goblins have to make barricades around the dome and the more reinforcements come in.
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
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Sure. Then you tell your players to roll new characters because these ones decided to never leave a 10 ft. dome and live there. Especially since the longer they are there the more time goblins have to make barricades around the dome and the more reinforcements come in.
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
2935
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
2935
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
2935
answered Dec 16 at 13:23
Karolis L
2935
2935
2
If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
7
If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
6
The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
add a comment |
2
If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
7
If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
6
The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
2
2
If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
If the party can cast Gate, they may be able to escape to a different plane.
– Cœur
Dec 16 at 16:39
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If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
If you are fighting goblins i don't think you have access to spells of that caliber. :)
– Karolis L
Dec 16 at 17:27
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The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
The goblins could make sure their stay is permanent if they are hostile and creative enough. All they need to do is cover the hut in stones and other heavy items. If the hut ever vanishes the party will be immediately crushed and buried alive. It really is a pointless thing to do unless the party has some really good reason for taking up residence in a dungeon.
– Allan Mills
Dec 16 at 21:26
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Related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/106781 - People (other than caster) can shoot from inside the hut. Disclosure: It is my question.
– Mindwin
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Strikes me as much more odd that objects can pass from the inside to the outside. Which means casting Tiny Hut prior to picking up a fight with an army of 5,000 orcs is a safe bet prodivded that you brought a couple of full quivers and a bow. Or, a few long spears, for that matter. Can grind down pretty much every opponent no matter how big as long as you have him cornered with the spell.
– Damon
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