what is the penalty for NOT setting Disconnect users in the database when restoring backups?
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setting up Log shipping between 2 sql server 2016 servers
I want my databases read-only standby on the secondary server.
there is a tick box saying Disconnect users in the database when restoring backups.
what if I don't tick this box?
The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
But then, what if someone is logged in for hours? Hours without restoring the logs?
sql-server-2016 restore transaction-log log-shipping session
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setting up Log shipping between 2 sql server 2016 servers
I want my databases read-only standby on the secondary server.
there is a tick box saying Disconnect users in the database when restoring backups.
what if I don't tick this box?
The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
But then, what if someone is logged in for hours? Hours without restoring the logs?
sql-server-2016 restore transaction-log log-shipping session
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
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I believe it'll wait for those connections to naturally finish/disconnect before the restore operation begins.
– John Eisbrener
8 hours ago
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And then the restore will time out depending on how the restore is performed.
– Randolph West
8 hours ago
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setting up Log shipping between 2 sql server 2016 servers
I want my databases read-only standby on the secondary server.
there is a tick box saying Disconnect users in the database when restoring backups.
what if I don't tick this box?
The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
But then, what if someone is logged in for hours? Hours without restoring the logs?
sql-server-2016 restore transaction-log log-shipping session
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
5,5541960128
setting up Log shipping between 2 sql server 2016 servers
I want my databases read-only standby on the secondary server.
there is a tick box saying Disconnect users in the database when restoring backups.
what if I don't tick this box?
The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
But then, what if someone is logged in for hours? Hours without restoring the logs?
sql-server-2016 restore transaction-log log-shipping session
sql-server-2016 restore transaction-log log-shipping session
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
5,5541960128
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
5,5541960128
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
5,5541960128
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
5,5541960128
asked 9 hours ago
marcello miorelli
5,5541960128
5,5541960128
4
I believe it'll wait for those connections to naturally finish/disconnect before the restore operation begins.
– John Eisbrener
8 hours ago
3
And then the restore will time out depending on how the restore is performed.
– Randolph West
8 hours ago
add a comment |
4
I believe it'll wait for those connections to naturally finish/disconnect before the restore operation begins.
– John Eisbrener
8 hours ago
3
And then the restore will time out depending on how the restore is performed.
– Randolph West
8 hours ago
4
4
I believe it'll wait for those connections to naturally finish/disconnect before the restore operation begins.
– John Eisbrener
8 hours ago
I believe it'll wait for those connections to naturally finish/disconnect before the restore operation begins.
– John Eisbrener
8 hours ago
3
3
And then the restore will time out depending on how the restore is performed.
– Randolph West
8 hours ago
And then the restore will time out depending on how the restore is performed.
– Randolph West
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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From this page in the MS documentation:
There are two options for configuration when you place the secondary
database in standby mode:
You can choose to have database users disconnected when transaction
log backups are being restored. If you choose this option, users will
be disconnected from the database each time the log shipping restore
job attempts to restore a transaction log to the secondary database.
Disconnection will happen on the schedule you set for the restore job.
You can choose not to disconnect users. In this case, the restore job
cannot restore transaction log backups to the secondary database if
there are users connected to that database. Transaction log backups
will accumulate until there are no user connections to the database.
So yes, it could be hours, days, weeks, or years without a restore if users are still connected to the secondary.
answered 8 hours ago
SQLRaptor
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what if I don't tick this box? The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
Another reason that I can think of is -
The .tuf file (transaction undo file) that gets generated when you configure logshipping in stand-by mode will keep increasing as no restore is happening due to users being connected to the stand-by server and eventually you will run out of disk space.
Also, having configured logshipping in standby mode, you should be aware that the logs get restored slower when logshipping runs in standby mode --> Think about your RTO !
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
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thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
1
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
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From this page in the MS documentation:
There are two options for configuration when you place the secondary
database in standby mode:
You can choose to have database users disconnected when transaction
log backups are being restored. If you choose this option, users will
be disconnected from the database each time the log shipping restore
job attempts to restore a transaction log to the secondary database.
Disconnection will happen on the schedule you set for the restore job.
You can choose not to disconnect users. In this case, the restore job
cannot restore transaction log backups to the secondary database if
there are users connected to that database. Transaction log backups
will accumulate until there are no user connections to the database.
So yes, it could be hours, days, weeks, or years without a restore if users are still connected to the secondary.
answered 8 hours ago
SQLRaptor
2,0931118
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up vote
6
down vote
accepted
From this page in the MS documentation:
There are two options for configuration when you place the secondary
database in standby mode:
You can choose to have database users disconnected when transaction
log backups are being restored. If you choose this option, users will
be disconnected from the database each time the log shipping restore
job attempts to restore a transaction log to the secondary database.
Disconnection will happen on the schedule you set for the restore job.
You can choose not to disconnect users. In this case, the restore job
cannot restore transaction log backups to the secondary database if
there are users connected to that database. Transaction log backups
will accumulate until there are no user connections to the database.
So yes, it could be hours, days, weeks, or years without a restore if users are still connected to the secondary.
answered 8 hours ago
SQLRaptor
2,0931118
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
From this page in the MS documentation:
There are two options for configuration when you place the secondary
database in standby mode:
You can choose to have database users disconnected when transaction
log backups are being restored. If you choose this option, users will
be disconnected from the database each time the log shipping restore
job attempts to restore a transaction log to the secondary database.
Disconnection will happen on the schedule you set for the restore job.
You can choose not to disconnect users. In this case, the restore job
cannot restore transaction log backups to the secondary database if
there are users connected to that database. Transaction log backups
will accumulate until there are no user connections to the database.
So yes, it could be hours, days, weeks, or years without a restore if users are still connected to the secondary.
answered 8 hours ago
SQLRaptor
2,0931118
From this page in the MS documentation:
There are two options for configuration when you place the secondary
database in standby mode:
You can choose to have database users disconnected when transaction
log backups are being restored. If you choose this option, users will
be disconnected from the database each time the log shipping restore
job attempts to restore a transaction log to the secondary database.
Disconnection will happen on the schedule you set for the restore job.
You can choose not to disconnect users. In this case, the restore job
cannot restore transaction log backups to the secondary database if
there are users connected to that database. Transaction log backups
will accumulate until there are no user connections to the database.
So yes, it could be hours, days, weeks, or years without a restore if users are still connected to the secondary.
answered 8 hours ago
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SQLRaptor
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what if I don't tick this box? The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
Another reason that I can think of is -
The .tuf file (transaction undo file) that gets generated when you configure logshipping in stand-by mode will keep increasing as no restore is happening due to users being connected to the stand-by server and eventually you will run out of disk space.
Also, having configured logshipping in standby mode, you should be aware that the logs get restored slower when logshipping runs in standby mode --> Think about your RTO !
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
1
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
what if I don't tick this box? The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
Another reason that I can think of is -
The .tuf file (transaction undo file) that gets generated when you configure logshipping in stand-by mode will keep increasing as no restore is happening due to users being connected to the stand-by server and eventually you will run out of disk space.
Also, having configured logshipping in standby mode, you should be aware that the logs get restored slower when logshipping runs in standby mode --> Think about your RTO !
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
1
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
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up vote
2
down vote
what if I don't tick this box? The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
Another reason that I can think of is -
The .tuf file (transaction undo file) that gets generated when you configure logshipping in stand-by mode will keep increasing as no restore is happening due to users being connected to the stand-by server and eventually you will run out of disk space.
Also, having configured logshipping in standby mode, you should be aware that the logs get restored slower when logshipping runs in standby mode --> Think about your RTO !
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
what if I don't tick this box? The restore of the log would not come trough because it could not get exclusive lock on the database?
Another reason that I can think of is -
The .tuf file (transaction undo file) that gets generated when you configure logshipping in stand-by mode will keep increasing as no restore is happening due to users being connected to the stand-by server and eventually you will run out of disk space.
Also, having configured logshipping in standby mode, you should be aware that the logs get restored slower when logshipping runs in standby mode --> Think about your RTO !
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
answered 8 hours ago
Kin
52.6k478187
52.6k478187
thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
1
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
add a comment |
thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
1
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
thanks Kin but what is RTO?
– marcello miorelli
8 hours ago
1
1
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
@marcellomiorelli - RTO stands for Recovery Time Objective - In simple terms, you can think of RTO as a measure of how much downtime is acceptable, or how quickly must the data be made accessible again.
– Scott Hodgin
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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I believe it'll wait for those connections to naturally finish/disconnect before the restore operation begins.
– John Eisbrener
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And then the restore will time out depending on how the restore is performed.
– Randolph West
8 hours ago