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I can not figure out what the correct usage of allow/allows is in this case.




Using plural allow(s) me to...




Would "allow(s)" refer back to the plural and thus be "allow"? or does it refer back to the action of using the plural and thus be "allows"?



An example could be something like: "Using old recordings allow(s) me to relive memories."










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marked as duplicate by Scott, sumelic, Robusto, Jason Bassford, Janus Bahs Jacquet Dec 6 at 7:54


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    Using plural is a verb phrase, the remains of a gerund clause being used as the subject. Phrases and clauses used as nouns are always singular. So it's allows.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 6 at 1:04










  • Thank you very much @JohnLawler, even though it is a short answer, would you please add it as one, so that I can close the question as answered?
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 1:35










  • Side note: using plural doesn't make sense. Depending on context, it should either be using the plural or using a plural. But nobody just uses plural.
    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 6 at 5:36












  • @JasonBassford: Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:44












  • @JasonBassford I did indeed mean what Sumelic said. I am sorry for the confusion.
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 12:04















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I can not figure out what the correct usage of allow/allows is in this case.




Using plural allow(s) me to...




Would "allow(s)" refer back to the plural and thus be "allow"? or does it refer back to the action of using the plural and thus be "allows"?



An example could be something like: "Using old recordings allow(s) me to relive memories."










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marked as duplicate by Scott, sumelic, Robusto, Jason Bassford, Janus Bahs Jacquet Dec 6 at 7:54


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    Using plural is a verb phrase, the remains of a gerund clause being used as the subject. Phrases and clauses used as nouns are always singular. So it's allows.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 6 at 1:04










  • Thank you very much @JohnLawler, even though it is a short answer, would you please add it as one, so that I can close the question as answered?
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 1:35










  • Side note: using plural doesn't make sense. Depending on context, it should either be using the plural or using a plural. But nobody just uses plural.
    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 6 at 5:36












  • @JasonBassford: Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:44












  • @JasonBassford I did indeed mean what Sumelic said. I am sorry for the confusion.
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 12:04













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I can not figure out what the correct usage of allow/allows is in this case.




Using plural allow(s) me to...




Would "allow(s)" refer back to the plural and thus be "allow"? or does it refer back to the action of using the plural and thus be "allows"?



An example could be something like: "Using old recordings allow(s) me to relive memories."










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This question already has an answer here:




  • Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct?

    5 answers




I can not figure out what the correct usage of allow/allows is in this case.




Using plural allow(s) me to...




Would "allow(s)" refer back to the plural and thus be "allow"? or does it refer back to the action of using the plural and thus be "allows"?



An example could be something like: "Using old recordings allow(s) me to relive memories."





This question already has an answer here:




  • Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct?

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marked as duplicate by Scott, sumelic, Robusto, Jason Bassford, Janus Bahs Jacquet Dec 6 at 7:54


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marked as duplicate by Scott, sumelic, Robusto, Jason Bassford, Janus Bahs Jacquet Dec 6 at 7:54


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  • 2




    Using plural is a verb phrase, the remains of a gerund clause being used as the subject. Phrases and clauses used as nouns are always singular. So it's allows.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 6 at 1:04










  • Thank you very much @JohnLawler, even though it is a short answer, would you please add it as one, so that I can close the question as answered?
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 1:35










  • Side note: using plural doesn't make sense. Depending on context, it should either be using the plural or using a plural. But nobody just uses plural.
    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 6 at 5:36












  • @JasonBassford: Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:44












  • @JasonBassford I did indeed mean what Sumelic said. I am sorry for the confusion.
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 12:04














  • 2




    Using plural is a verb phrase, the remains of a gerund clause being used as the subject. Phrases and clauses used as nouns are always singular. So it's allows.
    – John Lawler
    Dec 6 at 1:04










  • Thank you very much @JohnLawler, even though it is a short answer, would you please add it as one, so that I can close the question as answered?
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 1:35










  • Side note: using plural doesn't make sense. Depending on context, it should either be using the plural or using a plural. But nobody just uses plural.
    – Jason Bassford
    Dec 6 at 5:36












  • @JasonBassford: Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:44












  • @JasonBassford I did indeed mean what Sumelic said. I am sorry for the confusion.
    – Nicky Mattsson
    Dec 6 at 12:04








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2




Using plural is a verb phrase, the remains of a gerund clause being used as the subject. Phrases and clauses used as nouns are always singular. So it's allows.
– John Lawler
Dec 6 at 1:04




Using plural is a verb phrase, the remains of a gerund clause being used as the subject. Phrases and clauses used as nouns are always singular. So it's allows.
– John Lawler
Dec 6 at 1:04












Thank you very much @JohnLawler, even though it is a short answer, would you please add it as one, so that I can close the question as answered?
– Nicky Mattsson
Dec 6 at 1:35




Thank you very much @JohnLawler, even though it is a short answer, would you please add it as one, so that I can close the question as answered?
– Nicky Mattsson
Dec 6 at 1:35












Side note: using plural doesn't make sense. Depending on context, it should either be using the plural or using a plural. But nobody just uses plural.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 6 at 5:36






Side note: using plural doesn't make sense. Depending on context, it should either be using the plural or using a plural. But nobody just uses plural.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 6 at 5:36














@JasonBassford: Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 6:44






@JasonBassford: Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 6:44














@JasonBassford I did indeed mean what Sumelic said. I am sorry for the confusion.
– Nicky Mattsson
Dec 6 at 12:04




@JasonBassford I did indeed mean what Sumelic said. I am sorry for the confusion.
– Nicky Mattsson
Dec 6 at 12:04










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The (gerund) noun phrase 'using plural' is the subject and it is singular (because 'using' is singular and 'plural' is just the object of the gerund), so the verb would be 'allows'. Note that 'plural' has no determiner, so it is either a non-count (mass) noun or an adjective of a zero noun. Its an adjective because the mass noun would be 'plurality'.



Gerund phrases can be plural, by making the gerund (participle) plural:
"Spellings of palindromes allow reversal.", but 'usings' would be better changed to 'usages'.






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  • Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:45












  • @sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 6:53






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    I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:55












  • @sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
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    Dec 6 at 7:09










  • OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
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The (gerund) noun phrase 'using plural' is the subject and it is singular (because 'using' is singular and 'plural' is just the object of the gerund), so the verb would be 'allows'. Note that 'plural' has no determiner, so it is either a non-count (mass) noun or an adjective of a zero noun. Its an adjective because the mass noun would be 'plurality'.



Gerund phrases can be plural, by making the gerund (participle) plural:
"Spellings of palindromes allow reversal.", but 'usings' would be better changed to 'usages'.






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  • Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:45












  • @sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 6:53






  • 1




    I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:55












  • @sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 7:09










  • OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 7:14















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accepted










The (gerund) noun phrase 'using plural' is the subject and it is singular (because 'using' is singular and 'plural' is just the object of the gerund), so the verb would be 'allows'. Note that 'plural' has no determiner, so it is either a non-count (mass) noun or an adjective of a zero noun. Its an adjective because the mass noun would be 'plurality'.



Gerund phrases can be plural, by making the gerund (participle) plural:
"Spellings of palindromes allow reversal.", but 'usings' would be better changed to 'usages'.






share|improve this answer





















  • Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:45












  • @sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 6:53






  • 1




    I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:55












  • @sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 7:09










  • OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 7:14













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up vote
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The (gerund) noun phrase 'using plural' is the subject and it is singular (because 'using' is singular and 'plural' is just the object of the gerund), so the verb would be 'allows'. Note that 'plural' has no determiner, so it is either a non-count (mass) noun or an adjective of a zero noun. Its an adjective because the mass noun would be 'plurality'.



Gerund phrases can be plural, by making the gerund (participle) plural:
"Spellings of palindromes allow reversal.", but 'usings' would be better changed to 'usages'.






share|improve this answer












The (gerund) noun phrase 'using plural' is the subject and it is singular (because 'using' is singular and 'plural' is just the object of the gerund), so the verb would be 'allows'. Note that 'plural' has no determiner, so it is either a non-count (mass) noun or an adjective of a zero noun. Its an adjective because the mass noun would be 'plurality'.



Gerund phrases can be plural, by making the gerund (participle) plural:
"Spellings of palindromes allow reversal.", but 'usings' would be better changed to 'usages'.







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  • Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:45












  • @sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 6:53






  • 1




    I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:55












  • @sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 7:09










  • OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 7:14


















  • Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:45












  • @sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 6:53






  • 1




    I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 6:55












  • @sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
    – AmI
    Dec 6 at 7:09










  • OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
    – sumelic
    Dec 6 at 7:14
















Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 6:45






Based on the example ("Using old recordings..."), I don't think Nicky was planning on using the literal sequence of words "using plural". The word "plural" in the title and quote block just seems to stand for a plural noun phrase.
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 6:45














@sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
– AmI
Dec 6 at 6:53




@sumelic - you are quite right. I fell in with the earlier comments. If Nicky wants, I will change the answer, but it works as is (and 'recordings' might warrant more explaining: it has no affect on the agreement).
– AmI
Dec 6 at 6:53




1




1




I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 6:55






I think the question has already been answered on the linked page: Making adult decisions “is” or “are” really not fun: Which is correct? There are also other relevant answers on the page “Doing such stunts ARE punishable” or “Doing such stunts IS punishable”?
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 6:55














@sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
– AmI
Dec 6 at 7:09




@sumelic - Yes, it was answered. I missed the link. If my glaucoma is causing problems, I'll try to conserve my interactions. (Sorry to get real)
– AmI
Dec 6 at 7:09












OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 7:14




OK! I hadn't realized that you had missed the link.
– sumelic
Dec 6 at 7:14



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