Which is the correct way to use the prepositional phrase, “in and outside of”?
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I am wavering back and forth on which of these uses of these complex (?) prepositional phrases reads better. Which is less clunky? Is there one that is preferred by writers/readers at large?
"My scientific exploration both in and outside of my classes has helped ..."
or
"My scientific exploration both in my classes and outside of them has helped ..."
Or, similarly...
"Teaching science in and after college has motivated me..."
or
"Teaching science in college and after has motivated me..."
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I am wavering back and forth on which of these uses of these complex (?) prepositional phrases reads better. Which is less clunky? Is there one that is preferred by writers/readers at large?
"My scientific exploration both in and outside of my classes has helped ..."
or
"My scientific exploration both in my classes and outside of them has helped ..."
Or, similarly...
"Teaching science in and after college has motivated me..."
or
"Teaching science in college and after has motivated me..."
prepositions
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It's strange that you would not say in and out or inside and outside. Why are you not being consistent? It makes it difficult to address your specific question when you are changing two things at the same time.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 2 at 21:09
@JasonBassford I was under the impression that with a phrase like this, the "side " is implied. Almost like the adjectives in "Freshman and sophomore students" or "time- and location-dependent." I don't think this makes addressing my original question hard about the location of "my classes," or "college." You telling me that it should be "in and out" or "inside and outside" is very helpful, too. Thank you.
– Salvatore Daddario
Dec 2 at 21:30
They're all grammatically correct, but #1 is slightly less natural, as we'd normally look for consistency with two prepositions in sequence (as Jason notes); also, "inside and outside of" is better than "in and out of" (subtle difference: "in and out" suggests movement rather than merely location). However, #1 isn't wrong, and #2 is perfectly standard, as are #3 & #4.
– Chappo
Dec 3 at 0:11
Interestingly, I prefer #1.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 3 at 1:58
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I am wavering back and forth on which of these uses of these complex (?) prepositional phrases reads better. Which is less clunky? Is there one that is preferred by writers/readers at large?
"My scientific exploration both in and outside of my classes has helped ..."
or
"My scientific exploration both in my classes and outside of them has helped ..."
Or, similarly...
"Teaching science in and after college has motivated me..."
or
"Teaching science in college and after has motivated me..."
prepositions
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I am wavering back and forth on which of these uses of these complex (?) prepositional phrases reads better. Which is less clunky? Is there one that is preferred by writers/readers at large?
"My scientific exploration both in and outside of my classes has helped ..."
or
"My scientific exploration both in my classes and outside of them has helped ..."
Or, similarly...
"Teaching science in and after college has motivated me..."
or
"Teaching science in college and after has motivated me..."
prepositions
prepositions
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It's strange that you would not say in and out or inside and outside. Why are you not being consistent? It makes it difficult to address your specific question when you are changing two things at the same time.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 2 at 21:09
@JasonBassford I was under the impression that with a phrase like this, the "side " is implied. Almost like the adjectives in "Freshman and sophomore students" or "time- and location-dependent." I don't think this makes addressing my original question hard about the location of "my classes," or "college." You telling me that it should be "in and out" or "inside and outside" is very helpful, too. Thank you.
– Salvatore Daddario
Dec 2 at 21:30
They're all grammatically correct, but #1 is slightly less natural, as we'd normally look for consistency with two prepositions in sequence (as Jason notes); also, "inside and outside of" is better than "in and out of" (subtle difference: "in and out" suggests movement rather than merely location). However, #1 isn't wrong, and #2 is perfectly standard, as are #3 & #4.
– Chappo
Dec 3 at 0:11
Interestingly, I prefer #1.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 3 at 1:58
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It's strange that you would not say in and out or inside and outside. Why are you not being consistent? It makes it difficult to address your specific question when you are changing two things at the same time.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 2 at 21:09
@JasonBassford I was under the impression that with a phrase like this, the "side " is implied. Almost like the adjectives in "Freshman and sophomore students" or "time- and location-dependent." I don't think this makes addressing my original question hard about the location of "my classes," or "college." You telling me that it should be "in and out" or "inside and outside" is very helpful, too. Thank you.
– Salvatore Daddario
Dec 2 at 21:30
They're all grammatically correct, but #1 is slightly less natural, as we'd normally look for consistency with two prepositions in sequence (as Jason notes); also, "inside and outside of" is better than "in and out of" (subtle difference: "in and out" suggests movement rather than merely location). However, #1 isn't wrong, and #2 is perfectly standard, as are #3 & #4.
– Chappo
Dec 3 at 0:11
Interestingly, I prefer #1.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 3 at 1:58
It's strange that you would not say in and out or inside and outside. Why are you not being consistent? It makes it difficult to address your specific question when you are changing two things at the same time.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 2 at 21:09
It's strange that you would not say in and out or inside and outside. Why are you not being consistent? It makes it difficult to address your specific question when you are changing two things at the same time.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 2 at 21:09
@JasonBassford I was under the impression that with a phrase like this, the "side " is implied. Almost like the adjectives in "Freshman and sophomore students" or "time- and location-dependent." I don't think this makes addressing my original question hard about the location of "my classes," or "college." You telling me that it should be "in and out" or "inside and outside" is very helpful, too. Thank you.
– Salvatore Daddario
Dec 2 at 21:30
@JasonBassford I was under the impression that with a phrase like this, the "side " is implied. Almost like the adjectives in "Freshman and sophomore students" or "time- and location-dependent." I don't think this makes addressing my original question hard about the location of "my classes," or "college." You telling me that it should be "in and out" or "inside and outside" is very helpful, too. Thank you.
– Salvatore Daddario
Dec 2 at 21:30
They're all grammatically correct, but #1 is slightly less natural, as we'd normally look for consistency with two prepositions in sequence (as Jason notes); also, "inside and outside of" is better than "in and out of" (subtle difference: "in and out" suggests movement rather than merely location). However, #1 isn't wrong, and #2 is perfectly standard, as are #3 & #4.
– Chappo
Dec 3 at 0:11
They're all grammatically correct, but #1 is slightly less natural, as we'd normally look for consistency with two prepositions in sequence (as Jason notes); also, "inside and outside of" is better than "in and out of" (subtle difference: "in and out" suggests movement rather than merely location). However, #1 isn't wrong, and #2 is perfectly standard, as are #3 & #4.
– Chappo
Dec 3 at 0:11
Interestingly, I prefer #1.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 3 at 1:58
Interestingly, I prefer #1.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 3 at 1:58
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It's strange that you would not say in and out or inside and outside. Why are you not being consistent? It makes it difficult to address your specific question when you are changing two things at the same time.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 2 at 21:09
@JasonBassford I was under the impression that with a phrase like this, the "side " is implied. Almost like the adjectives in "Freshman and sophomore students" or "time- and location-dependent." I don't think this makes addressing my original question hard about the location of "my classes," or "college." You telling me that it should be "in and out" or "inside and outside" is very helpful, too. Thank you.
– Salvatore Daddario
Dec 2 at 21:30
They're all grammatically correct, but #1 is slightly less natural, as we'd normally look for consistency with two prepositions in sequence (as Jason notes); also, "inside and outside of" is better than "in and out of" (subtle difference: "in and out" suggests movement rather than merely location). However, #1 isn't wrong, and #2 is perfectly standard, as are #3 & #4.
– Chappo
Dec 3 at 0:11
Interestingly, I prefer #1.
– Jason Bassford
Dec 3 at 1:58