Delay between TCP send and actual write to the NIC
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While looking for solution to a problem in socket programming with python described here (In short the problem is: I want my message(~ 25 Bytes) sent by a client over a TCP socket to be dispatched(flushed) immediately.), I came across this article.
In the 6th paragraph of the section "How Established Connections Work" the article says following:
The actual transmission of the data to the NIC could be somewhat delayed from when the user actually calls write(2) if the network is busy, if the TCP send window is full, if there are traffic shaping policies in effect, etc.
My questions are:
- With a very fast and private network(I can guarantee availability) and TCP send window not being full. Will my small messages of size ~25 bytes be sent immediately?
- What could these traffic shaping policies be in default case in recent Ubuntu like 14, 16 and 18?
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While looking for solution to a problem in socket programming with python described here (In short the problem is: I want my message(~ 25 Bytes) sent by a client over a TCP socket to be dispatched(flushed) immediately.), I came across this article.
In the 6th paragraph of the section "How Established Connections Work" the article says following:
The actual transmission of the data to the NIC could be somewhat delayed from when the user actually calls write(2) if the network is busy, if the TCP send window is full, if there are traffic shaping policies in effect, etc.
My questions are:
- With a very fast and private network(I can guarantee availability) and TCP send window not being full. Will my small messages of size ~25 bytes be sent immediately?
- What could these traffic shaping policies be in default case in recent Ubuntu like 14, 16 and 18?
tcp socket
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
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Why not use UDP? Furthermore, why not doing/testing it instead of asking the same question both in SO and U&L?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 27 at 23:14
Question at SO is different that this.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 18:40
It is as different as one question asking if you drive and another asking if you have a driving license, I think. However the more pressing question is, why you do not try it yourself?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 28 at 19:23
No it is not the first question is about specific python api. This is more about how will linux behave.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 19:59
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While looking for solution to a problem in socket programming with python described here (In short the problem is: I want my message(~ 25 Bytes) sent by a client over a TCP socket to be dispatched(flushed) immediately.), I came across this article.
In the 6th paragraph of the section "How Established Connections Work" the article says following:
The actual transmission of the data to the NIC could be somewhat delayed from when the user actually calls write(2) if the network is busy, if the TCP send window is full, if there are traffic shaping policies in effect, etc.
My questions are:
- With a very fast and private network(I can guarantee availability) and TCP send window not being full. Will my small messages of size ~25 bytes be sent immediately?
- What could these traffic shaping policies be in default case in recent Ubuntu like 14, 16 and 18?
tcp socket
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
1012
While looking for solution to a problem in socket programming with python described here (In short the problem is: I want my message(~ 25 Bytes) sent by a client over a TCP socket to be dispatched(flushed) immediately.), I came across this article.
In the 6th paragraph of the section "How Established Connections Work" the article says following:
The actual transmission of the data to the NIC could be somewhat delayed from when the user actually calls write(2) if the network is busy, if the TCP send window is full, if there are traffic shaping policies in effect, etc.
My questions are:
- With a very fast and private network(I can guarantee availability) and TCP send window not being full. Will my small messages of size ~25 bytes be sent immediately?
- What could these traffic shaping policies be in default case in recent Ubuntu like 14, 16 and 18?
tcp socket
tcp socket
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
1012
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
1012
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
edited Nov 27 at 23:06
Rui F Ribeiro
38.4k1478127
38.4k1478127
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
1012
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
1012
asked Nov 27 at 21:57
PHcoDer
1012
1012
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Why not use UDP? Furthermore, why not doing/testing it instead of asking the same question both in SO and U&L?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 27 at 23:14
Question at SO is different that this.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 18:40
It is as different as one question asking if you drive and another asking if you have a driving license, I think. However the more pressing question is, why you do not try it yourself?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 28 at 19:23
No it is not the first question is about specific python api. This is more about how will linux behave.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 19:59
add a comment |
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Why not use UDP? Furthermore, why not doing/testing it instead of asking the same question both in SO and U&L?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 27 at 23:14
Question at SO is different that this.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 18:40
It is as different as one question asking if you drive and another asking if you have a driving license, I think. However the more pressing question is, why you do not try it yourself?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 28 at 19:23
No it is not the first question is about specific python api. This is more about how will linux behave.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 19:59
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Why not use UDP? Furthermore, why not doing/testing it instead of asking the same question both in SO and U&L?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 27 at 23:14
Why not use UDP? Furthermore, why not doing/testing it instead of asking the same question both in SO and U&L?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 27 at 23:14
Question at SO is different that this.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 18:40
Question at SO is different that this.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 18:40
It is as different as one question asking if you drive and another asking if you have a driving license, I think. However the more pressing question is, why you do not try it yourself?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 28 at 19:23
It is as different as one question asking if you drive and another asking if you have a driving license, I think. However the more pressing question is, why you do not try it yourself?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 28 at 19:23
No it is not the first question is about specific python api. This is more about how will linux behave.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 19:59
No it is not the first question is about specific python api. This is more about how will linux behave.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 19:59
add a comment |
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Traffic shaping policies get set on the backbone of your ISP, not by Ubuntu, so that's a non-issue if you have a very fast and private network that you manage yourself (E.G.: not corporate: if corporate, talk to the network engineers which ports to use).
The TCP window is 64K on modern OSes so unless you're running this on DOS (8K) or kernel 2.16 if memory serves me right (16K) that's not an issue neither so:
Yes, I believe the 25 bytes will be sent immediately on Ubuntu, using a private network.
answered Nov 27 at 22:44
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Traffic shaping policies get set on the backbone of your ISP, not by Ubuntu, so that's a non-issue if you have a very fast and private network that you manage yourself (E.G.: not corporate: if corporate, talk to the network engineers which ports to use).
The TCP window is 64K on modern OSes so unless you're running this on DOS (8K) or kernel 2.16 if memory serves me right (16K) that's not an issue neither so:
Yes, I believe the 25 bytes will be sent immediately on Ubuntu, using a private network.
answered Nov 27 at 22:44
Fabby
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Traffic shaping policies get set on the backbone of your ISP, not by Ubuntu, so that's a non-issue if you have a very fast and private network that you manage yourself (E.G.: not corporate: if corporate, talk to the network engineers which ports to use).
The TCP window is 64K on modern OSes so unless you're running this on DOS (8K) or kernel 2.16 if memory serves me right (16K) that's not an issue neither so:
Yes, I believe the 25 bytes will be sent immediately on Ubuntu, using a private network.
answered Nov 27 at 22:44
Fabby
3,21911127
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up vote
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Traffic shaping policies get set on the backbone of your ISP, not by Ubuntu, so that's a non-issue if you have a very fast and private network that you manage yourself (E.G.: not corporate: if corporate, talk to the network engineers which ports to use).
The TCP window is 64K on modern OSes so unless you're running this on DOS (8K) or kernel 2.16 if memory serves me right (16K) that's not an issue neither so:
Yes, I believe the 25 bytes will be sent immediately on Ubuntu, using a private network.
answered Nov 27 at 22:44
Fabby
3,21911127
Traffic shaping policies get set on the backbone of your ISP, not by Ubuntu, so that's a non-issue if you have a very fast and private network that you manage yourself (E.G.: not corporate: if corporate, talk to the network engineers which ports to use).
The TCP window is 64K on modern OSes so unless you're running this on DOS (8K) or kernel 2.16 if memory serves me right (16K) that's not an issue neither so:
Yes, I believe the 25 bytes will be sent immediately on Ubuntu, using a private network.
answered Nov 27 at 22:44
Fabby
3,21911127
edited Nov 27 at 22:53
answered Nov 27 at 22:44
Fabby
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answered Nov 27 at 22:44
Fabby
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answered Nov 27 at 22:44
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Why not use UDP? Furthermore, why not doing/testing it instead of asking the same question both in SO and U&L?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 27 at 23:14
Question at SO is different that this.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 18:40
It is as different as one question asking if you drive and another asking if you have a driving license, I think. However the more pressing question is, why you do not try it yourself?
– Rui F Ribeiro
Nov 28 at 19:23
No it is not the first question is about specific python api. This is more about how will linux behave.
– PHcoDer
Nov 28 at 19:59