Is “this'll” considered proper English?
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I understand that certain words when used over time are then embraced into the English lexicon. Is "this'll" one of those words?
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This'll do.
This'll stay in place.
As an insert, this'll be easier to do.
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I understand that certain words when used over time are then embraced into the English lexicon. Is "this'll" one of those words?
Examples:
This'll do.
This'll stay in place.
As an insert, this'll be easier to do.
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From the song American Pie, "Singin' this'll be the day that I die."
– Jason Bassford
Dec 12 at 19:16
Do you really, really mean "proper" English? Do you mean "formal" English, instead? -'ll suffixed words like the above are "correct" but not entirely "formal".
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
@JasonBassford Is singin' "proper" English?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
It has been "embraced" way long ago.
– Kris
2 days ago
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I understand that certain words when used over time are then embraced into the English lexicon. Is "this'll" one of those words?
Examples:
This'll do.
This'll stay in place.
As an insert, this'll be easier to do.
contractions
I understand that certain words when used over time are then embraced into the English lexicon. Is "this'll" one of those words?
Examples:
This'll do.
This'll stay in place.
As an insert, this'll be easier to do.
contractions
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From the song American Pie, "Singin' this'll be the day that I die."
– Jason Bassford
Dec 12 at 19:16
Do you really, really mean "proper" English? Do you mean "formal" English, instead? -'ll suffixed words like the above are "correct" but not entirely "formal".
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
@JasonBassford Is singin' "proper" English?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
It has been "embraced" way long ago.
– Kris
2 days ago
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From the song American Pie, "Singin' this'll be the day that I die."
– Jason Bassford
Dec 12 at 19:16
Do you really, really mean "proper" English? Do you mean "formal" English, instead? -'ll suffixed words like the above are "correct" but not entirely "formal".
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
@JasonBassford Is singin' "proper" English?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
It has been "embraced" way long ago.
– Kris
2 days ago
From the song American Pie, "Singin' this'll be the day that I die."
– Jason Bassford
Dec 12 at 19:16
From the song American Pie, "Singin' this'll be the day that I die."
– Jason Bassford
Dec 12 at 19:16
Do you really, really mean "proper" English? Do you mean "formal" English, instead? -'ll suffixed words like the above are "correct" but not entirely "formal".
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
Do you really, really mean "proper" English? Do you mean "formal" English, instead? -'ll suffixed words like the above are "correct" but not entirely "formal".
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
@JasonBassford Is singin' "proper" English?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
@JasonBassford Is singin' "proper" English?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
It has been "embraced" way long ago.
– Kris
2 days ago
It has been "embraced" way long ago.
– Kris
2 days ago
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"This'll" is an example of a word that is spoken aloud frequently but is not part of standard written English. Even if one is writing with other contractions (can't, won't, I'll, etc.), "this'll" would not be written down and would instead be expanded as "this will."
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Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
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Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
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It is a perfectly normal contraction, in daily use by millions of English speakers.
It is also widely used in informal writing. Many people regard contractions of this sort as inappropriate for more formal writing.
Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you.
"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
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"This'll" is an example of a word that is spoken aloud frequently but is not part of standard written English. Even if one is writing with other contractions (can't, won't, I'll, etc.), "this'll" would not be written down and would instead be expanded as "this will."
New contributor
Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
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Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
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"This'll" is an example of a word that is spoken aloud frequently but is not part of standard written English. Even if one is writing with other contractions (can't, won't, I'll, etc.), "this'll" would not be written down and would instead be expanded as "this will."
New contributor
Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
2
Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
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"This'll" is an example of a word that is spoken aloud frequently but is not part of standard written English. Even if one is writing with other contractions (can't, won't, I'll, etc.), "this'll" would not be written down and would instead be expanded as "this will."
New contributor
"This'll" is an example of a word that is spoken aloud frequently but is not part of standard written English. Even if one is writing with other contractions (can't, won't, I'll, etc.), "this'll" would not be written down and would instead be expanded as "this will."
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Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
2
Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
add a comment |
Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
2
Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
Hmm. It would never occur to me to expand this'll in a context where I would write he'll. But I concede that the iWeb corpus shows only 3 401 instances of this'll against 1 106 480 of this will - a ratio of 1:325. This compares with 226 568 against 2 916 449 (1:13) for it'll/it will, and 205 744 against 636 339 (1:3) for, he'll/he will. I wonder why this should be. It could be simply that "he will" is more likely to occur in informal contexts than "it will" or "this will" - but I don't know whether that is the case or not.
– Colin Fine
Dec 12 at 17:52
2
2
Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
Whence comes the bland statement that this'll "is not part of standard written English"? Is there an index available where this can be looked up, or does one merely bow to the obvious correctness of the view?
– John Lawler
Dec 12 at 20:00
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It is a perfectly normal contraction, in daily use by millions of English speakers.
It is also widely used in informal writing. Many people regard contractions of this sort as inappropriate for more formal writing.
Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you.
"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
add a comment |
up vote
1
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It is a perfectly normal contraction, in daily use by millions of English speakers.
It is also widely used in informal writing. Many people regard contractions of this sort as inappropriate for more formal writing.
Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you.
"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
add a comment |
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It is a perfectly normal contraction, in daily use by millions of English speakers.
It is also widely used in informal writing. Many people regard contractions of this sort as inappropriate for more formal writing.
Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you.
It is a perfectly normal contraction, in daily use by millions of English speakers.
It is also widely used in informal writing. Many people regard contractions of this sort as inappropriate for more formal writing.
Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you.
answered Dec 12 at 17:39
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"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
add a comment |
"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
"Whether you regard it as "a word" or not is up to you." Then how is it "perfectly normal contraction"? Or vice versa?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:27
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
@Kris: there is no universally agreed meaning of word. Is a contraction a word? If so, then this'll is one.
– Colin Fine
Dec 14 at 0:16
add a comment |
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From the song American Pie, "Singin' this'll be the day that I die."
– Jason Bassford
Dec 12 at 19:16
Do you really, really mean "proper" English? Do you mean "formal" English, instead? -'ll suffixed words like the above are "correct" but not entirely "formal".
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
@JasonBassford Is singin' "proper" English?
– Kris
Dec 13 at 9:25
It has been "embraced" way long ago.
– Kris
2 days ago