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I've been following 'Understanding Analysis by Stephen Abbot' and have been struggling with exercise questions even after an in depth read of the chapters. I have read numerous statements by authors that 'if you can't do the exercises, then you haven't grasped the material properly', but I feel like I have grasped the concepts. I've read many 'how to' books to finally understand higher level math and persevered with a 'never giving up' attitude, but most exercises really throw me off. Even those in the first chapter which are meant to be on basic preliminary material.



Is this just the nature of studying Real Analysis? I'll be starting Abstract Algebra soon and have been advised to purchase 'J.B Fraleighs introduction'. Do other higher maths subjects cause the same anxieties as Real Analysis?










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    You need to read Rudin. It's the only respectable analysis text, in my honest view. Only by reading baby Rudin (the bible of undergraduate mathematics) will you truly begin to learn analysis.
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    I've not long started either, but I'd say there's often a difference between grasping concepts and doing exercises—namely that an exercise can often require some useful little trick which isn't mentioned in the material: some algebraic manoeuvre, say. (And the author isn't writing about algebra, so leaves that part to you.)
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    MathematicsStudent is right, Baby Rudin is a really good place to jump in. Later, you meet Papa Rudin and Grandpa Rudin as well! ;)
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I've been following 'Understanding Analysis by Stephen Abbot' and have been struggling with exercise questions even after an in depth read of the chapters. I have read numerous statements by authors that 'if you can't do the exercises, then you haven't grasped the material properly', but I feel like I have grasped the concepts. I've read many 'how to' books to finally understand higher level math and persevered with a 'never giving up' attitude, but most exercises really throw me off. Even those in the first chapter which are meant to be on basic preliminary material.



Is this just the nature of studying Real Analysis? I'll be starting Abstract Algebra soon and have been advised to purchase 'J.B Fraleighs introduction'. Do other higher maths subjects cause the same anxieties as Real Analysis?










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  • Could you give some specific examples of problems that you find difficult?
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  • It seems what you’re really looking for is commiseration in your time of trouble, which really isn’t a mathematical question. But I’m sure you’d find commiseration in the chatrooms...
    – rschwieb
    6 hours ago






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    You need to read Rudin. It's the only respectable analysis text, in my honest view. Only by reading baby Rudin (the bible of undergraduate mathematics) will you truly begin to learn analysis.
    – MathematicsStudent1122
    5 hours ago








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    I've not long started either, but I'd say there's often a difference between grasping concepts and doing exercises—namely that an exercise can often require some useful little trick which isn't mentioned in the material: some algebraic manoeuvre, say. (And the author isn't writing about algebra, so leaves that part to you.)
    – timtfj
    5 hours ago






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    MathematicsStudent is right, Baby Rudin is a really good place to jump in. Later, you meet Papa Rudin and Grandpa Rudin as well! ;)
    – Robert Lewis
    5 hours ago














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I've been following 'Understanding Analysis by Stephen Abbot' and have been struggling with exercise questions even after an in depth read of the chapters. I have read numerous statements by authors that 'if you can't do the exercises, then you haven't grasped the material properly', but I feel like I have grasped the concepts. I've read many 'how to' books to finally understand higher level math and persevered with a 'never giving up' attitude, but most exercises really throw me off. Even those in the first chapter which are meant to be on basic preliminary material.



Is this just the nature of studying Real Analysis? I'll be starting Abstract Algebra soon and have been advised to purchase 'J.B Fraleighs introduction'. Do other higher maths subjects cause the same anxieties as Real Analysis?










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I've been following 'Understanding Analysis by Stephen Abbot' and have been struggling with exercise questions even after an in depth read of the chapters. I have read numerous statements by authors that 'if you can't do the exercises, then you haven't grasped the material properly', but I feel like I have grasped the concepts. I've read many 'how to' books to finally understand higher level math and persevered with a 'never giving up' attitude, but most exercises really throw me off. Even those in the first chapter which are meant to be on basic preliminary material.



Is this just the nature of studying Real Analysis? I'll be starting Abstract Algebra soon and have been advised to purchase 'J.B Fraleighs introduction'. Do other higher maths subjects cause the same anxieties as Real Analysis?







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  • Could you give some specific examples of problems that you find difficult?
    – Sambo
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  • It seems what you’re really looking for is commiseration in your time of trouble, which really isn’t a mathematical question. But I’m sure you’d find commiseration in the chatrooms...
    – rschwieb
    6 hours ago






  • 3




    You need to read Rudin. It's the only respectable analysis text, in my honest view. Only by reading baby Rudin (the bible of undergraduate mathematics) will you truly begin to learn analysis.
    – MathematicsStudent1122
    5 hours ago








  • 1




    I've not long started either, but I'd say there's often a difference between grasping concepts and doing exercises—namely that an exercise can often require some useful little trick which isn't mentioned in the material: some algebraic manoeuvre, say. (And the author isn't writing about algebra, so leaves that part to you.)
    – timtfj
    5 hours ago






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    MathematicsStudent is right, Baby Rudin is a really good place to jump in. Later, you meet Papa Rudin and Grandpa Rudin as well! ;)
    – Robert Lewis
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  • Could you give some specific examples of problems that you find difficult?
    – Sambo
    6 hours ago










  • It seems what you’re really looking for is commiseration in your time of trouble, which really isn’t a mathematical question. But I’m sure you’d find commiseration in the chatrooms...
    – rschwieb
    6 hours ago






  • 3




    You need to read Rudin. It's the only respectable analysis text, in my honest view. Only by reading baby Rudin (the bible of undergraduate mathematics) will you truly begin to learn analysis.
    – MathematicsStudent1122
    5 hours ago








  • 1




    I've not long started either, but I'd say there's often a difference between grasping concepts and doing exercises—namely that an exercise can often require some useful little trick which isn't mentioned in the material: some algebraic manoeuvre, say. (And the author isn't writing about algebra, so leaves that part to you.)
    – timtfj
    5 hours ago






  • 3




    MathematicsStudent is right, Baby Rudin is a really good place to jump in. Later, you meet Papa Rudin and Grandpa Rudin as well! ;)
    – Robert Lewis
    5 hours ago
















Could you give some specific examples of problems that you find difficult?
– Sambo
6 hours ago




Could you give some specific examples of problems that you find difficult?
– Sambo
6 hours ago












It seems what you’re really looking for is commiseration in your time of trouble, which really isn’t a mathematical question. But I’m sure you’d find commiseration in the chatrooms...
– rschwieb
6 hours ago




It seems what you’re really looking for is commiseration in your time of trouble, which really isn’t a mathematical question. But I’m sure you’d find commiseration in the chatrooms...
– rschwieb
6 hours ago




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You need to read Rudin. It's the only respectable analysis text, in my honest view. Only by reading baby Rudin (the bible of undergraduate mathematics) will you truly begin to learn analysis.
– MathematicsStudent1122
5 hours ago






You need to read Rudin. It's the only respectable analysis text, in my honest view. Only by reading baby Rudin (the bible of undergraduate mathematics) will you truly begin to learn analysis.
– MathematicsStudent1122
5 hours ago






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I've not long started either, but I'd say there's often a difference between grasping concepts and doing exercises—namely that an exercise can often require some useful little trick which isn't mentioned in the material: some algebraic manoeuvre, say. (And the author isn't writing about algebra, so leaves that part to you.)
– timtfj
5 hours ago




I've not long started either, but I'd say there's often a difference between grasping concepts and doing exercises—namely that an exercise can often require some useful little trick which isn't mentioned in the material: some algebraic manoeuvre, say. (And the author isn't writing about algebra, so leaves that part to you.)
– timtfj
5 hours ago




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MathematicsStudent is right, Baby Rudin is a really good place to jump in. Later, you meet Papa Rudin and Grandpa Rudin as well! ;)
– Robert Lewis
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MathematicsStudent is right, Baby Rudin is a really good place to jump in. Later, you meet Papa Rudin and Grandpa Rudin as well! ;)
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I have two insights I have gleaned from my personal struggle with similar difficulties:



First, if you are having trouble with exercises, find easier exercises on which to cut your teeth. There are always easier exercises. The point is to jump in at a place where you feel comfortable working so you can grow your skills naturally. You may have to switch books to do it, but it can be done. Skill grows inevitably with practice, but I think you have to practice with what you can do. Sometimes baby steps are the wisest way to go. Just my thoughts . . .



Second, in my experience as a student, teacher, and researcher, some people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at others. I have seen people who could breeze through graduate algebra courses struggle to barely pass analysis or differential equations, and vice versa; and I think putting time in on what you have a natural knack for may contribute to your success in subjects which you find intrinsically more difficult.



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    Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
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I would say that the ability to do the exercises is an indication that you have (or are currently) mastering the concepts, but that simply grasping them is a much lower bar.



My personal advice is the following: find some classmates and take turns teaching each other the material. Literally. Go find a study room or somewhere you can stand in front of a board and teach each other what you learned in class. Reprove theorems. Re-examine examples. Re-state definitions (from memory if you can). There is no better way to learn than to teach.



If that doesn't help, then my next bit of advice is to practice 'till you puke. Another answer stated something about easier exercises to cut your teeth; this is an amazing bit of advice. But don't feel compelled to get back up to the hard problems fast! Keep practicing everything, because you never know when it will all click, and what will be the cause of said click.






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    A few bits of advice...



    First, draw pictures. Specifically, draw graphs of real-valued functions, and see what various theorems are telling you about these pictures. Draw pictures to help you solve problems, too. Pictures don’t constitute a solution or a proof, but they can often guide you towards the right line of reasoning.



    Second, play with lots of examples. Suppose you’re studying a theorem that has several hypotheses. Think of examples where the hypotheses are satisfied and where they are not. If one of the hypotheses is not satisfied, maybe the theorem is no longer true. Think of examples that illustrate this.



    Third, don’t expect things to be easy. Mathematics texts (and many teachers) have a nasty habit of showing you only the pretty final results, without showing you all the false starts and roadblocks that preceded them. You won’t be able to write textbook mathematics on your first attempt. The first few attempts will be a mess. Once you have a solution that works, then you can tidy it up and make it look as pretty as the stuff in textbooks.






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    • Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
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    There is already really good advice here; just wanted to add some stuff which I think hasn't been mentioned yet.



    When you read a theorem, avoid reading the proof right away and try for a few minutes to see if you can prove it youself. It's totally fine if you cannot prove it; the main point of this exercise is to help you understand what the theorem is really saying and to make it more memorable. If you want to do more, you can do stuff such as cover the proof with a blank paper and progressively reveal it, while trying to guess the next line or the rest of the proof.



    Also, you may want to do this: 5 minutes after reading the proof, try to write it up youself (or at least a briefer summary of it); this can be surprisingly difficult. If you cannot do it, read the proof again and repeat.



    Similar thing for the exercises; if you cannot solve an exercise, look at the solution and try to understand it. Once you feel that you understand it, try to write up the proof yourself; and if you cannnot, read again and repeat.






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      I have two insights I have gleaned from my personal struggle with similar difficulties:



      First, if you are having trouble with exercises, find easier exercises on which to cut your teeth. There are always easier exercises. The point is to jump in at a place where you feel comfortable working so you can grow your skills naturally. You may have to switch books to do it, but it can be done. Skill grows inevitably with practice, but I think you have to practice with what you can do. Sometimes baby steps are the wisest way to go. Just my thoughts . . .



      Second, in my experience as a student, teacher, and researcher, some people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at others. I have seen people who could breeze through graduate algebra courses struggle to barely pass analysis or differential equations, and vice versa; and I think putting time in on what you have a natural knack for may contribute to your success in subjects which you find intrinsically more difficult.



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        Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
        – Bernard W
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      • @BernardW: yes; I couldn't really grasp Lebesgue integration very well until I learned the essentials of functional analysis. Go figure!
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      I have two insights I have gleaned from my personal struggle with similar difficulties:



      First, if you are having trouble with exercises, find easier exercises on which to cut your teeth. There are always easier exercises. The point is to jump in at a place where you feel comfortable working so you can grow your skills naturally. You may have to switch books to do it, but it can be done. Skill grows inevitably with practice, but I think you have to practice with what you can do. Sometimes baby steps are the wisest way to go. Just my thoughts . . .



      Second, in my experience as a student, teacher, and researcher, some people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at others. I have seen people who could breeze through graduate algebra courses struggle to barely pass analysis or differential equations, and vice versa; and I think putting time in on what you have a natural knack for may contribute to your success in subjects which you find intrinsically more difficult.



      I hope these words are helpful. You are not alone.






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        Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
        – Bernard W
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      • @BernardW: yes; I couldn't really grasp Lebesgue integration very well until I learned the essentials of functional analysis. Go figure!
        – Robert Lewis
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      I have two insights I have gleaned from my personal struggle with similar difficulties:



      First, if you are having trouble with exercises, find easier exercises on which to cut your teeth. There are always easier exercises. The point is to jump in at a place where you feel comfortable working so you can grow your skills naturally. You may have to switch books to do it, but it can be done. Skill grows inevitably with practice, but I think you have to practice with what you can do. Sometimes baby steps are the wisest way to go. Just my thoughts . . .



      Second, in my experience as a student, teacher, and researcher, some people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at others. I have seen people who could breeze through graduate algebra courses struggle to barely pass analysis or differential equations, and vice versa; and I think putting time in on what you have a natural knack for may contribute to your success in subjects which you find intrinsically more difficult.



      I hope these words are helpful. You are not alone.






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      I have two insights I have gleaned from my personal struggle with similar difficulties:



      First, if you are having trouble with exercises, find easier exercises on which to cut your teeth. There are always easier exercises. The point is to jump in at a place where you feel comfortable working so you can grow your skills naturally. You may have to switch books to do it, but it can be done. Skill grows inevitably with practice, but I think you have to practice with what you can do. Sometimes baby steps are the wisest way to go. Just my thoughts . . .



      Second, in my experience as a student, teacher, and researcher, some people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at others. I have seen people who could breeze through graduate algebra courses struggle to barely pass analysis or differential equations, and vice versa; and I think putting time in on what you have a natural knack for may contribute to your success in subjects which you find intrinsically more difficult.



      I hope these words are helpful. You are not alone.







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        Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
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      • @BernardW: yes; I couldn't really grasp Lebesgue integration very well until I learned the essentials of functional analysis. Go figure!
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        Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
        – Bernard W
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      • @BernardW: yes; I couldn't really grasp Lebesgue integration very well until I learned the essentials of functional analysis. Go figure!
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      Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
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      Just to add to your comment that "people are just naturally better at some subjects than they are at other" there is also the possibility that you might 'naturally' struggle with real analysis, but find topology 'naturally' accessible, which will then make real analysis intuitive. Sometimes pushing through with a bare understanding of the main results and then going back works.
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      @BernardW: yes; I couldn't really grasp Lebesgue integration very well until I learned the essentials of functional analysis. Go figure!
      – Robert Lewis
      4 hours ago




      @BernardW: yes; I couldn't really grasp Lebesgue integration very well until I learned the essentials of functional analysis. Go figure!
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      I would say that the ability to do the exercises is an indication that you have (or are currently) mastering the concepts, but that simply grasping them is a much lower bar.



      My personal advice is the following: find some classmates and take turns teaching each other the material. Literally. Go find a study room or somewhere you can stand in front of a board and teach each other what you learned in class. Reprove theorems. Re-examine examples. Re-state definitions (from memory if you can). There is no better way to learn than to teach.



      If that doesn't help, then my next bit of advice is to practice 'till you puke. Another answer stated something about easier exercises to cut your teeth; this is an amazing bit of advice. But don't feel compelled to get back up to the hard problems fast! Keep practicing everything, because you never know when it will all click, and what will be the cause of said click.






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        I would say that the ability to do the exercises is an indication that you have (or are currently) mastering the concepts, but that simply grasping them is a much lower bar.



        My personal advice is the following: find some classmates and take turns teaching each other the material. Literally. Go find a study room or somewhere you can stand in front of a board and teach each other what you learned in class. Reprove theorems. Re-examine examples. Re-state definitions (from memory if you can). There is no better way to learn than to teach.



        If that doesn't help, then my next bit of advice is to practice 'till you puke. Another answer stated something about easier exercises to cut your teeth; this is an amazing bit of advice. But don't feel compelled to get back up to the hard problems fast! Keep practicing everything, because you never know when it will all click, and what will be the cause of said click.






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          I would say that the ability to do the exercises is an indication that you have (or are currently) mastering the concepts, but that simply grasping them is a much lower bar.



          My personal advice is the following: find some classmates and take turns teaching each other the material. Literally. Go find a study room or somewhere you can stand in front of a board and teach each other what you learned in class. Reprove theorems. Re-examine examples. Re-state definitions (from memory if you can). There is no better way to learn than to teach.



          If that doesn't help, then my next bit of advice is to practice 'till you puke. Another answer stated something about easier exercises to cut your teeth; this is an amazing bit of advice. But don't feel compelled to get back up to the hard problems fast! Keep practicing everything, because you never know when it will all click, and what will be the cause of said click.






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          I would say that the ability to do the exercises is an indication that you have (or are currently) mastering the concepts, but that simply grasping them is a much lower bar.



          My personal advice is the following: find some classmates and take turns teaching each other the material. Literally. Go find a study room or somewhere you can stand in front of a board and teach each other what you learned in class. Reprove theorems. Re-examine examples. Re-state definitions (from memory if you can). There is no better way to learn than to teach.



          If that doesn't help, then my next bit of advice is to practice 'till you puke. Another answer stated something about easier exercises to cut your teeth; this is an amazing bit of advice. But don't feel compelled to get back up to the hard problems fast! Keep practicing everything, because you never know when it will all click, and what will be the cause of said click.







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              A few bits of advice...



              First, draw pictures. Specifically, draw graphs of real-valued functions, and see what various theorems are telling you about these pictures. Draw pictures to help you solve problems, too. Pictures don’t constitute a solution or a proof, but they can often guide you towards the right line of reasoning.



              Second, play with lots of examples. Suppose you’re studying a theorem that has several hypotheses. Think of examples where the hypotheses are satisfied and where they are not. If one of the hypotheses is not satisfied, maybe the theorem is no longer true. Think of examples that illustrate this.



              Third, don’t expect things to be easy. Mathematics texts (and many teachers) have a nasty habit of showing you only the pretty final results, without showing you all the false starts and roadblocks that preceded them. You won’t be able to write textbook mathematics on your first attempt. The first few attempts will be a mess. Once you have a solution that works, then you can tidy it up and make it look as pretty as the stuff in textbooks.






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              • Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
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              A few bits of advice...



              First, draw pictures. Specifically, draw graphs of real-valued functions, and see what various theorems are telling you about these pictures. Draw pictures to help you solve problems, too. Pictures don’t constitute a solution or a proof, but they can often guide you towards the right line of reasoning.



              Second, play with lots of examples. Suppose you’re studying a theorem that has several hypotheses. Think of examples where the hypotheses are satisfied and where they are not. If one of the hypotheses is not satisfied, maybe the theorem is no longer true. Think of examples that illustrate this.



              Third, don’t expect things to be easy. Mathematics texts (and many teachers) have a nasty habit of showing you only the pretty final results, without showing you all the false starts and roadblocks that preceded them. You won’t be able to write textbook mathematics on your first attempt. The first few attempts will be a mess. Once you have a solution that works, then you can tidy it up and make it look as pretty as the stuff in textbooks.






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              • Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
                – Ovi
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              A few bits of advice...



              First, draw pictures. Specifically, draw graphs of real-valued functions, and see what various theorems are telling you about these pictures. Draw pictures to help you solve problems, too. Pictures don’t constitute a solution or a proof, but they can often guide you towards the right line of reasoning.



              Second, play with lots of examples. Suppose you’re studying a theorem that has several hypotheses. Think of examples where the hypotheses are satisfied and where they are not. If one of the hypotheses is not satisfied, maybe the theorem is no longer true. Think of examples that illustrate this.



              Third, don’t expect things to be easy. Mathematics texts (and many teachers) have a nasty habit of showing you only the pretty final results, without showing you all the false starts and roadblocks that preceded them. You won’t be able to write textbook mathematics on your first attempt. The first few attempts will be a mess. Once you have a solution that works, then you can tidy it up and make it look as pretty as the stuff in textbooks.






              share|cite|improve this answer












              A few bits of advice...



              First, draw pictures. Specifically, draw graphs of real-valued functions, and see what various theorems are telling you about these pictures. Draw pictures to help you solve problems, too. Pictures don’t constitute a solution or a proof, but they can often guide you towards the right line of reasoning.



              Second, play with lots of examples. Suppose you’re studying a theorem that has several hypotheses. Think of examples where the hypotheses are satisfied and where they are not. If one of the hypotheses is not satisfied, maybe the theorem is no longer true. Think of examples that illustrate this.



              Third, don’t expect things to be easy. Mathematics texts (and many teachers) have a nasty habit of showing you only the pretty final results, without showing you all the false starts and roadblocks that preceded them. You won’t be able to write textbook mathematics on your first attempt. The first few attempts will be a mess. Once you have a solution that works, then you can tidy it up and make it look as pretty as the stuff in textbooks.







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              • Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
                – Ovi
                7 mins ago




















              • Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
                – Ovi
                7 mins ago


















              Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
              – Ovi
              7 mins ago






              Yeah I am very sad about the topic you mention in your last paragraph. I've read Paul Zeitz's "The Art and Craft of Problem Solving" and over 2 pages, he went over how one might discover all the Pythegorean triples; I learned soo much about how to solve and think about Diophantine equations just from that one example. Then I went to my Number Theory book from school and I was disgusted at the half page proof which taught me nothing.
              – Ovi
              7 mins ago













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              There is already really good advice here; just wanted to add some stuff which I think hasn't been mentioned yet.



              When you read a theorem, avoid reading the proof right away and try for a few minutes to see if you can prove it youself. It's totally fine if you cannot prove it; the main point of this exercise is to help you understand what the theorem is really saying and to make it more memorable. If you want to do more, you can do stuff such as cover the proof with a blank paper and progressively reveal it, while trying to guess the next line or the rest of the proof.



              Also, you may want to do this: 5 minutes after reading the proof, try to write it up youself (or at least a briefer summary of it); this can be surprisingly difficult. If you cannot do it, read the proof again and repeat.



              Similar thing for the exercises; if you cannot solve an exercise, look at the solution and try to understand it. Once you feel that you understand it, try to write up the proof yourself; and if you cannnot, read again and repeat.






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                There is already really good advice here; just wanted to add some stuff which I think hasn't been mentioned yet.



                When you read a theorem, avoid reading the proof right away and try for a few minutes to see if you can prove it youself. It's totally fine if you cannot prove it; the main point of this exercise is to help you understand what the theorem is really saying and to make it more memorable. If you want to do more, you can do stuff such as cover the proof with a blank paper and progressively reveal it, while trying to guess the next line or the rest of the proof.



                Also, you may want to do this: 5 minutes after reading the proof, try to write it up youself (or at least a briefer summary of it); this can be surprisingly difficult. If you cannot do it, read the proof again and repeat.



                Similar thing for the exercises; if you cannot solve an exercise, look at the solution and try to understand it. Once you feel that you understand it, try to write up the proof yourself; and if you cannnot, read again and repeat.






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                  There is already really good advice here; just wanted to add some stuff which I think hasn't been mentioned yet.



                  When you read a theorem, avoid reading the proof right away and try for a few minutes to see if you can prove it youself. It's totally fine if you cannot prove it; the main point of this exercise is to help you understand what the theorem is really saying and to make it more memorable. If you want to do more, you can do stuff such as cover the proof with a blank paper and progressively reveal it, while trying to guess the next line or the rest of the proof.



                  Also, you may want to do this: 5 minutes after reading the proof, try to write it up youself (or at least a briefer summary of it); this can be surprisingly difficult. If you cannot do it, read the proof again and repeat.



                  Similar thing for the exercises; if you cannot solve an exercise, look at the solution and try to understand it. Once you feel that you understand it, try to write up the proof yourself; and if you cannnot, read again and repeat.






                  share|cite|improve this answer












                  There is already really good advice here; just wanted to add some stuff which I think hasn't been mentioned yet.



                  When you read a theorem, avoid reading the proof right away and try for a few minutes to see if you can prove it youself. It's totally fine if you cannot prove it; the main point of this exercise is to help you understand what the theorem is really saying and to make it more memorable. If you want to do more, you can do stuff such as cover the proof with a blank paper and progressively reveal it, while trying to guess the next line or the rest of the proof.



                  Also, you may want to do this: 5 minutes after reading the proof, try to write it up youself (or at least a briefer summary of it); this can be surprisingly difficult. If you cannot do it, read the proof again and repeat.



                  Similar thing for the exercises; if you cannot solve an exercise, look at the solution and try to understand it. Once you feel that you understand it, try to write up the proof yourself; and if you cannnot, read again and repeat.







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