Using private software at work
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Lets assume there is a piece of software I would love to use while programming at work. My company will not buy it (or it will take months before it goes through bureaucratic wall).
My question is - can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace, or it would violate law?
Thanks!
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Lets assume there is a piece of software I would love to use while programming at work. My company will not buy it (or it will take months before it goes through bureaucratic wall).
My question is - can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace, or it would violate law?
Thanks!
software private
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SJuan76 is right - it might or might not be unlawful, but that's not really the point. Possibly more a "Workplace" than "Law" SE?
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago
Might be, I did try to google around and closest software related things showed up on Law stack so i went here
– internetofmine
14 hours ago
1
Usually companies have a policy about installing software. Even if it's 100% legal, it probably violates the IT policy and if you do that they are within their right to sack you.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
2
Even assuming that the license conditions of the software allow it and that your IT policies at your workplace allow it, you should really think twice about it, because it sets a dangerous precedent. You now established that it is acceptable for your employer to aks employees to pay for their sofware tools themselves. The next person might get told: "Internetofmine bought Visual Studio and Photoshop privately, so if you don't like Notepad and MSPaint, then you are free to also buy your own software.". It's your employers duty to provide you with the tools you need to do your job, not yours."
– Philipp
11 hours ago
1
Suppose you are doing something mission-critical for the company, and you "get the wrong answer" because of a bug in the software you chose and installed yourself. Who gets to pick up the liability for whatever happened? There's no sense in somebody suing you personally for $10m damages, so they will go after the company instead. That's why a sensible company will start from a knee-jerk "no" position over such a request - it's simply not worth the risk.
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6 hours ago
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Lets assume there is a piece of software I would love to use while programming at work. My company will not buy it (or it will take months before it goes through bureaucratic wall).
My question is - can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace, or it would violate law?
Thanks!
software private
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Lets assume there is a piece of software I would love to use while programming at work. My company will not buy it (or it will take months before it goes through bureaucratic wall).
My question is - can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace, or it would violate law?
Thanks!
software private
software private
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SJuan76 is right - it might or might not be unlawful, but that's not really the point. Possibly more a "Workplace" than "Law" SE?
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago
Might be, I did try to google around and closest software related things showed up on Law stack so i went here
– internetofmine
14 hours ago
1
Usually companies have a policy about installing software. Even if it's 100% legal, it probably violates the IT policy and if you do that they are within their right to sack you.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
2
Even assuming that the license conditions of the software allow it and that your IT policies at your workplace allow it, you should really think twice about it, because it sets a dangerous precedent. You now established that it is acceptable for your employer to aks employees to pay for their sofware tools themselves. The next person might get told: "Internetofmine bought Visual Studio and Photoshop privately, so if you don't like Notepad and MSPaint, then you are free to also buy your own software.". It's your employers duty to provide you with the tools you need to do your job, not yours."
– Philipp
11 hours ago
1
Suppose you are doing something mission-critical for the company, and you "get the wrong answer" because of a bug in the software you chose and installed yourself. Who gets to pick up the liability for whatever happened? There's no sense in somebody suing you personally for $10m damages, so they will go after the company instead. That's why a sensible company will start from a knee-jerk "no" position over such a request - it's simply not worth the risk.
– alephzero
6 hours ago
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SJuan76 is right - it might or might not be unlawful, but that's not really the point. Possibly more a "Workplace" than "Law" SE?
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago
Might be, I did try to google around and closest software related things showed up on Law stack so i went here
– internetofmine
14 hours ago
1
Usually companies have a policy about installing software. Even if it's 100% legal, it probably violates the IT policy and if you do that they are within their right to sack you.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
2
Even assuming that the license conditions of the software allow it and that your IT policies at your workplace allow it, you should really think twice about it, because it sets a dangerous precedent. You now established that it is acceptable for your employer to aks employees to pay for their sofware tools themselves. The next person might get told: "Internetofmine bought Visual Studio and Photoshop privately, so if you don't like Notepad and MSPaint, then you are free to also buy your own software.". It's your employers duty to provide you with the tools you need to do your job, not yours."
– Philipp
11 hours ago
1
Suppose you are doing something mission-critical for the company, and you "get the wrong answer" because of a bug in the software you chose and installed yourself. Who gets to pick up the liability for whatever happened? There's no sense in somebody suing you personally for $10m damages, so they will go after the company instead. That's why a sensible company will start from a knee-jerk "no" position over such a request - it's simply not worth the risk.
– alephzero
6 hours ago
2
2
SJuan76 is right - it might or might not be unlawful, but that's not really the point. Possibly more a "Workplace" than "Law" SE?
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago
SJuan76 is right - it might or might not be unlawful, but that's not really the point. Possibly more a "Workplace" than "Law" SE?
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago
Might be, I did try to google around and closest software related things showed up on Law stack so i went here
– internetofmine
14 hours ago
Might be, I did try to google around and closest software related things showed up on Law stack so i went here
– internetofmine
14 hours ago
1
1
Usually companies have a policy about installing software. Even if it's 100% legal, it probably violates the IT policy and if you do that they are within their right to sack you.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
Usually companies have a policy about installing software. Even if it's 100% legal, it probably violates the IT policy and if you do that they are within their right to sack you.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
2
2
Even assuming that the license conditions of the software allow it and that your IT policies at your workplace allow it, you should really think twice about it, because it sets a dangerous precedent. You now established that it is acceptable for your employer to aks employees to pay for their sofware tools themselves. The next person might get told: "Internetofmine bought Visual Studio and Photoshop privately, so if you don't like Notepad and MSPaint, then you are free to also buy your own software.". It's your employers duty to provide you with the tools you need to do your job, not yours."
– Philipp
11 hours ago
Even assuming that the license conditions of the software allow it and that your IT policies at your workplace allow it, you should really think twice about it, because it sets a dangerous precedent. You now established that it is acceptable for your employer to aks employees to pay for their sofware tools themselves. The next person might get told: "Internetofmine bought Visual Studio and Photoshop privately, so if you don't like Notepad and MSPaint, then you are free to also buy your own software.". It's your employers duty to provide you with the tools you need to do your job, not yours."
– Philipp
11 hours ago
1
1
Suppose you are doing something mission-critical for the company, and you "get the wrong answer" because of a bug in the software you chose and installed yourself. Who gets to pick up the liability for whatever happened? There's no sense in somebody suing you personally for $10m damages, so they will go after the company instead. That's why a sensible company will start from a knee-jerk "no" position over such a request - it's simply not worth the risk.
– alephzero
6 hours ago
Suppose you are doing something mission-critical for the company, and you "get the wrong answer" because of a bug in the software you chose and installed yourself. Who gets to pick up the liability for whatever happened? There's no sense in somebody suing you personally for $10m damages, so they will go after the company instead. That's why a sensible company will start from a knee-jerk "no" position over such a request - it's simply not worth the risk.
– alephzero
6 hours ago
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it would violate law?
It would be very dependent of what your jurisdiction is and what the software does. I would expect most software that would be lawful to install at your home would be lawful to install at your company, but there may be exceptions.
To put an hyperbolic example, if you work at the CIA and you install some remote access software that allows you to access your workstation from a non-secure PC through non-secure methods, I am pretty sure that would be illegal, even if you had the best of intentions.
A recent scenario taken from real life involves some members an organization who are required to use official e-mail servers for FOIA purposes setting up their own private mail servers.
Of course, YMMV.
can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace
Even if the software is legal it does not mean that it is ok to use it at the workplace. Most business have rules about what software may be installed in the PCs, who may install it and how to manage it.
Your software could introduce security vulnerabilities that your IT team may need to be aware of, or incompatibilities with other software. It may introduce legal liabilities (you install a "home edition" licence in a corporate environment where that licence is invalid).
Your company may discipline you if you breaking those guidelines and install software without authorization, even if there is no harm for them for this action. On top of that, if your actions cause some damage to the company, it can sue you to get you to pay for those damages.
Before taking any action you should inquiry about your company's IT policy and, if your company does not have one or if the policy is not clear about allowing you to install the software, ask the people in charge (preferably in writting).
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A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
2
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
1
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
1
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
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Adding to @SJuan76 's answer:
Company policy aside, most if not all software will have a licence that will include it's terms of use. These will often differ between personal use and commercial use as mentioned by @brian-leishman. You should find the licencing terms for the software in question and check whether they allow you to use it for commercial purposes. It would also be prudent to speak to someone in legal at your company so that they can confirm whether or not you can use it from both a legal and company policy standpoint.
An example of different licencing can be found with IDEA's IntelliJ IDE(Ultimate edition). There is a commercial licence, and a personal licence. The commercial licence is for when your organisation wants to buy licences. The personal licence can be used for organisational use, but not if the company has paid for it or compensated you for the cost of purchasing it yourself. There is also a community edition that is free for any use, but has fewer features. This demonstrates the importance reviewing the licence and terms of use.
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Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
1
Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
1
To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
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In the US, there would be two laws to be concerned with, copyright law (which would depend upon the license of the software) and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (which basically makes it a felony to piss off someone that owns a computer that you use, interact with, or are near).
If the terms of your license allow it, talk to your supervisor and see about getting permission to install it on your computer at work. If you don’t get permission, don’t do it.
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3 Answers
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
22
down vote
accepted
it would violate law?
It would be very dependent of what your jurisdiction is and what the software does. I would expect most software that would be lawful to install at your home would be lawful to install at your company, but there may be exceptions.
To put an hyperbolic example, if you work at the CIA and you install some remote access software that allows you to access your workstation from a non-secure PC through non-secure methods, I am pretty sure that would be illegal, even if you had the best of intentions.
A recent scenario taken from real life involves some members an organization who are required to use official e-mail servers for FOIA purposes setting up their own private mail servers.
Of course, YMMV.
can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace
Even if the software is legal it does not mean that it is ok to use it at the workplace. Most business have rules about what software may be installed in the PCs, who may install it and how to manage it.
Your software could introduce security vulnerabilities that your IT team may need to be aware of, or incompatibilities with other software. It may introduce legal liabilities (you install a "home edition" licence in a corporate environment where that licence is invalid).
Your company may discipline you if you breaking those guidelines and install software without authorization, even if there is no harm for them for this action. On top of that, if your actions cause some damage to the company, it can sue you to get you to pay for those damages.
Before taking any action you should inquiry about your company's IT policy and, if your company does not have one or if the policy is not clear about allowing you to install the software, ask the people in charge (preferably in writting).
12
A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
2
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
1
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
1
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
22
down vote
accepted
it would violate law?
It would be very dependent of what your jurisdiction is and what the software does. I would expect most software that would be lawful to install at your home would be lawful to install at your company, but there may be exceptions.
To put an hyperbolic example, if you work at the CIA and you install some remote access software that allows you to access your workstation from a non-secure PC through non-secure methods, I am pretty sure that would be illegal, even if you had the best of intentions.
A recent scenario taken from real life involves some members an organization who are required to use official e-mail servers for FOIA purposes setting up their own private mail servers.
Of course, YMMV.
can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace
Even if the software is legal it does not mean that it is ok to use it at the workplace. Most business have rules about what software may be installed in the PCs, who may install it and how to manage it.
Your software could introduce security vulnerabilities that your IT team may need to be aware of, or incompatibilities with other software. It may introduce legal liabilities (you install a "home edition" licence in a corporate environment where that licence is invalid).
Your company may discipline you if you breaking those guidelines and install software without authorization, even if there is no harm for them for this action. On top of that, if your actions cause some damage to the company, it can sue you to get you to pay for those damages.
Before taking any action you should inquiry about your company's IT policy and, if your company does not have one or if the policy is not clear about allowing you to install the software, ask the people in charge (preferably in writting).
12
A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
2
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
1
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
1
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
22
down vote
accepted
up vote
22
down vote
accepted
it would violate law?
It would be very dependent of what your jurisdiction is and what the software does. I would expect most software that would be lawful to install at your home would be lawful to install at your company, but there may be exceptions.
To put an hyperbolic example, if you work at the CIA and you install some remote access software that allows you to access your workstation from a non-secure PC through non-secure methods, I am pretty sure that would be illegal, even if you had the best of intentions.
A recent scenario taken from real life involves some members an organization who are required to use official e-mail servers for FOIA purposes setting up their own private mail servers.
Of course, YMMV.
can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace
Even if the software is legal it does not mean that it is ok to use it at the workplace. Most business have rules about what software may be installed in the PCs, who may install it and how to manage it.
Your software could introduce security vulnerabilities that your IT team may need to be aware of, or incompatibilities with other software. It may introduce legal liabilities (you install a "home edition" licence in a corporate environment where that licence is invalid).
Your company may discipline you if you breaking those guidelines and install software without authorization, even if there is no harm for them for this action. On top of that, if your actions cause some damage to the company, it can sue you to get you to pay for those damages.
Before taking any action you should inquiry about your company's IT policy and, if your company does not have one or if the policy is not clear about allowing you to install the software, ask the people in charge (preferably in writting).
it would violate law?
It would be very dependent of what your jurisdiction is and what the software does. I would expect most software that would be lawful to install at your home would be lawful to install at your company, but there may be exceptions.
To put an hyperbolic example, if you work at the CIA and you install some remote access software that allows you to access your workstation from a non-secure PC through non-secure methods, I am pretty sure that would be illegal, even if you had the best of intentions.
A recent scenario taken from real life involves some members an organization who are required to use official e-mail servers for FOIA purposes setting up their own private mail servers.
Of course, YMMV.
can I purchase it for myself, and then use at workplace
Even if the software is legal it does not mean that it is ok to use it at the workplace. Most business have rules about what software may be installed in the PCs, who may install it and how to manage it.
Your software could introduce security vulnerabilities that your IT team may need to be aware of, or incompatibilities with other software. It may introduce legal liabilities (you install a "home edition" licence in a corporate environment where that licence is invalid).
Your company may discipline you if you breaking those guidelines and install software without authorization, even if there is no harm for them for this action. On top of that, if your actions cause some damage to the company, it can sue you to get you to pay for those damages.
Before taking any action you should inquiry about your company's IT policy and, if your company does not have one or if the policy is not clear about allowing you to install the software, ask the people in charge (preferably in writting).
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A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
2
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
1
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
1
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
12
A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
2
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
1
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
1
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
12
12
A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
A LOT of software states that it is free for personal use but not for commercial use
– Brian Leishman
13 hours ago
2
2
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
@BrianLeishman That is true, but the OP is talking about purchasing software, not using free software. A lot less software that costs money has a different license for commercial use (but yes, such license differentiation does exist of course).
– JBentley
11 hours ago
1
1
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
@KRyan I edited it, thank you for warning me.
– SJuan76
11 hours ago
1
1
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
Best answer. Also want to add that most commercial software licenses would have to be purchased in the name of the company using it, meaning if you left it would still be registered to the company - not to you. You have wasted your money on another builders hammer, so to speak
– Horkrine
9 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
@BrianLeishman Much of the software that states that is flat out lying to you. (If pushed, they'll probably argue that by "commercial use" they mean distribution, not ordinary use.) However, if the software requires you to agree not to use it commercially in order to install it, then that is probably legally binding on the specific person who actually agreed to it.
– David Schwartz
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
7
down vote
Adding to @SJuan76 's answer:
Company policy aside, most if not all software will have a licence that will include it's terms of use. These will often differ between personal use and commercial use as mentioned by @brian-leishman. You should find the licencing terms for the software in question and check whether they allow you to use it for commercial purposes. It would also be prudent to speak to someone in legal at your company so that they can confirm whether or not you can use it from both a legal and company policy standpoint.
An example of different licencing can be found with IDEA's IntelliJ IDE(Ultimate edition). There is a commercial licence, and a personal licence. The commercial licence is for when your organisation wants to buy licences. The personal licence can be used for organisational use, but not if the company has paid for it or compensated you for the cost of purchasing it yourself. There is also a community edition that is free for any use, but has fewer features. This demonstrates the importance reviewing the licence and terms of use.
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Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
1
Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
1
To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
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Adding to @SJuan76 's answer:
Company policy aside, most if not all software will have a licence that will include it's terms of use. These will often differ between personal use and commercial use as mentioned by @brian-leishman. You should find the licencing terms for the software in question and check whether they allow you to use it for commercial purposes. It would also be prudent to speak to someone in legal at your company so that they can confirm whether or not you can use it from both a legal and company policy standpoint.
An example of different licencing can be found with IDEA's IntelliJ IDE(Ultimate edition). There is a commercial licence, and a personal licence. The commercial licence is for when your organisation wants to buy licences. The personal licence can be used for organisational use, but not if the company has paid for it or compensated you for the cost of purchasing it yourself. There is also a community edition that is free for any use, but has fewer features. This demonstrates the importance reviewing the licence and terms of use.
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Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
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Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
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To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
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Adding to @SJuan76 's answer:
Company policy aside, most if not all software will have a licence that will include it's terms of use. These will often differ between personal use and commercial use as mentioned by @brian-leishman. You should find the licencing terms for the software in question and check whether they allow you to use it for commercial purposes. It would also be prudent to speak to someone in legal at your company so that they can confirm whether or not you can use it from both a legal and company policy standpoint.
An example of different licencing can be found with IDEA's IntelliJ IDE(Ultimate edition). There is a commercial licence, and a personal licence. The commercial licence is for when your organisation wants to buy licences. The personal licence can be used for organisational use, but not if the company has paid for it or compensated you for the cost of purchasing it yourself. There is also a community edition that is free for any use, but has fewer features. This demonstrates the importance reviewing the licence and terms of use.
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Adding to @SJuan76 's answer:
Company policy aside, most if not all software will have a licence that will include it's terms of use. These will often differ between personal use and commercial use as mentioned by @brian-leishman. You should find the licencing terms for the software in question and check whether they allow you to use it for commercial purposes. It would also be prudent to speak to someone in legal at your company so that they can confirm whether or not you can use it from both a legal and company policy standpoint.
An example of different licencing can be found with IDEA's IntelliJ IDE(Ultimate edition). There is a commercial licence, and a personal licence. The commercial licence is for when your organisation wants to buy licences. The personal licence can be used for organisational use, but not if the company has paid for it or compensated you for the cost of purchasing it yourself. There is also a community edition that is free for any use, but has fewer features. This demonstrates the importance reviewing the licence and terms of use.
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Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
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Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
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To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
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Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
1
Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
1
To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
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Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
Regarding IntelliJ, the community edition is actually open source under the Apache license, so using it for commercial purposes is actually just fine. The comparison page even admits this if you hover over the "?" icon on the "Community" side: jetbrains.com/idea/?fromMenu Of course, they are in the business of making money, so of course they want to encourage you to buy the 'Ultimate' editions.
– Brandin
11 hours ago
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Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
Yeah, I'm super impressed with their licencing. As soon as my student licence runs out I'm going to buy the whole shebang with the grad discount. I definitely think it's worth shelling out
– J Lewis
11 hours ago
1
1
To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
To add to this: The licence might require that a large corporation must buy an expensive USD 10,000+ multiuser licence where a small one-man company can buy a cheap USD 100 licence. So the answer might be, yes you can use it if you pay for the multiuser licence.
– Bent
10 hours ago
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In the US, there would be two laws to be concerned with, copyright law (which would depend upon the license of the software) and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (which basically makes it a felony to piss off someone that owns a computer that you use, interact with, or are near).
If the terms of your license allow it, talk to your supervisor and see about getting permission to install it on your computer at work. If you don’t get permission, don’t do it.
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In the US, there would be two laws to be concerned with, copyright law (which would depend upon the license of the software) and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (which basically makes it a felony to piss off someone that owns a computer that you use, interact with, or are near).
If the terms of your license allow it, talk to your supervisor and see about getting permission to install it on your computer at work. If you don’t get permission, don’t do it.
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In the US, there would be two laws to be concerned with, copyright law (which would depend upon the license of the software) and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (which basically makes it a felony to piss off someone that owns a computer that you use, interact with, or are near).
If the terms of your license allow it, talk to your supervisor and see about getting permission to install it on your computer at work. If you don’t get permission, don’t do it.
In the US, there would be two laws to be concerned with, copyright law (which would depend upon the license of the software) and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (which basically makes it a felony to piss off someone that owns a computer that you use, interact with, or are near).
If the terms of your license allow it, talk to your supervisor and see about getting permission to install it on your computer at work. If you don’t get permission, don’t do it.
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SJuan76 is right - it might or might not be unlawful, but that's not really the point. Possibly more a "Workplace" than "Law" SE?
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
14 hours ago
Might be, I did try to google around and closest software related things showed up on Law stack so i went here
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Usually companies have a policy about installing software. Even if it's 100% legal, it probably violates the IT policy and if you do that they are within their right to sack you.
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Even assuming that the license conditions of the software allow it and that your IT policies at your workplace allow it, you should really think twice about it, because it sets a dangerous precedent. You now established that it is acceptable for your employer to aks employees to pay for their sofware tools themselves. The next person might get told: "Internetofmine bought Visual Studio and Photoshop privately, so if you don't like Notepad and MSPaint, then you are free to also buy your own software.". It's your employers duty to provide you with the tools you need to do your job, not yours."
– Philipp
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Suppose you are doing something mission-critical for the company, and you "get the wrong answer" because of a bug in the software you chose and installed yourself. Who gets to pick up the liability for whatever happened? There's no sense in somebody suing you personally for $10m damages, so they will go after the company instead. That's why a sensible company will start from a knee-jerk "no" position over such a request - it's simply not worth the risk.
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