Are the phrases “once for all” and “once and for all” equally acceptable?
I don't want to see you again! It's over, once (and) for all.
Are both forms acceptable? Is one of them old-fashioned?
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I don't want to see you again! It's over, once (and) for all.
Are both forms acceptable? Is one of them old-fashioned?
phrases phrase-usage
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I only ever say 'once and for all'.
– Peter
Jul 3 '14 at 23:43
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Please do not put a space before punctuation like ? in English. It does not look right to us; it looks French.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 0:50
@tchrist I thought it was the right way. Thanks.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:03
@Luis It is a difference between French and English. I’d have to think a bit to decide whether it applies to Portuguese or Spanish, or dig up some books from the basement to see how it gets used there.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 1:06
Most people here do it the way you do, with no space. I'm an exception, I guess.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:08
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I don't want to see you again! It's over, once (and) for all.
Are both forms acceptable? Is one of them old-fashioned?
phrases phrase-usage
edited Jul 4 '14 at 0:49
tchrist♦
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asked Jul 3 '14 at 23:35
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I don't want to see you again! It's over, once (and) for all.
Are both forms acceptable? Is one of them old-fashioned?
phrases phrase-usage
phrases phrase-usage
edited Jul 4 '14 at 0:49
tchrist♦
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edited Jul 4 '14 at 0:49
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Centaurus
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edited Jul 4 '14 at 0:49
tchrist♦
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edited Jul 4 '14 at 0:49
tchrist♦
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I only ever say 'once and for all'.
– Peter
Jul 3 '14 at 23:43
1
Please do not put a space before punctuation like ? in English. It does not look right to us; it looks French.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 0:50
@tchrist I thought it was the right way. Thanks.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:03
@Luis It is a difference between French and English. I’d have to think a bit to decide whether it applies to Portuguese or Spanish, or dig up some books from the basement to see how it gets used there.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 1:06
Most people here do it the way you do, with no space. I'm an exception, I guess.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:08
add a comment |
2
I only ever say 'once and for all'.
– Peter
Jul 3 '14 at 23:43
1
Please do not put a space before punctuation like ? in English. It does not look right to us; it looks French.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 0:50
@tchrist I thought it was the right way. Thanks.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:03
@Luis It is a difference between French and English. I’d have to think a bit to decide whether it applies to Portuguese or Spanish, or dig up some books from the basement to see how it gets used there.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 1:06
Most people here do it the way you do, with no space. I'm an exception, I guess.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:08
2
2
I only ever say 'once and for all'.
– Peter
Jul 3 '14 at 23:43
I only ever say 'once and for all'.
– Peter
Jul 3 '14 at 23:43
1
1
Please do not put a space before punctuation like ? in English. It does not look right to us; it looks French.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 0:50
Please do not put a space before punctuation like ? in English. It does not look right to us; it looks French.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 0:50
@tchrist I thought it was the right way. Thanks.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:03
@tchrist I thought it was the right way. Thanks.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:03
@Luis It is a difference between French and English. I’d have to think a bit to decide whether it applies to Portuguese or Spanish, or dig up some books from the basement to see how it gets used there.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 1:06
@Luis It is a difference between French and English. I’d have to think a bit to decide whether it applies to Portuguese or Spanish, or dig up some books from the basement to see how it gets used there.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 1:06
Most people here do it the way you do, with no space. I'm an exception, I guess.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:08
Most people here do it the way you do, with no space. I'm an exception, I guess.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:08
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Ngram shows a wider usage of once and for all and very little usage of once for all.
Once and for all:
Adv. once and for all - in a conclusive way; "we settled the problem conclusively"
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Once for all is now old fashioned, once and for all being standard. The Oxford English Dictionary from ca. thirty years ago says "once for all, now usually once and for all".
answered Jul 3 '14 at 23:45
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OK, this thread is four and a half years old but I will put in my answer. "Once for all" is found in the New Testament in several places, whether you are looking in the King James dating back to 1611 or modern translations: Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 10:2, 10:10 and Jude 1:3. It always means one time for all people. Christ died once for all. Of course, there is finality in what he did. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. (John 19:30)
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Ngram shows a wider usage of once and for all and very little usage of once for all.
Once and for all:
Adv. once and for all - in a conclusive way; "we settled the problem conclusively"
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Ngram shows a wider usage of once and for all and very little usage of once for all.
Once and for all:
Adv. once and for all - in a conclusive way; "we settled the problem conclusively"
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Ngram shows a wider usage of once and for all and very little usage of once for all.
Once and for all:
Adv. once and for all - in a conclusive way; "we settled the problem conclusively"
Ngram shows a wider usage of once and for all and very little usage of once for all.
Once and for all:
Adv. once and for all - in a conclusive way; "we settled the problem conclusively"
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Once for all is now old fashioned, once and for all being standard. The Oxford English Dictionary from ca. thirty years ago says "once for all, now usually once and for all".
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Once for all is now old fashioned, once and for all being standard. The Oxford English Dictionary from ca. thirty years ago says "once for all, now usually once and for all".
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Once for all is now old fashioned, once and for all being standard. The Oxford English Dictionary from ca. thirty years ago says "once for all, now usually once and for all".
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Once for all is now old fashioned, once and for all being standard. The Oxford English Dictionary from ca. thirty years ago says "once for all, now usually once and for all".
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OK, this thread is four and a half years old but I will put in my answer. "Once for all" is found in the New Testament in several places, whether you are looking in the King James dating back to 1611 or modern translations: Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 10:2, 10:10 and Jude 1:3. It always means one time for all people. Christ died once for all. Of course, there is finality in what he did. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. (John 19:30)
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OK, this thread is four and a half years old but I will put in my answer. "Once for all" is found in the New Testament in several places, whether you are looking in the King James dating back to 1611 or modern translations: Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 10:2, 10:10 and Jude 1:3. It always means one time for all people. Christ died once for all. Of course, there is finality in what he did. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. (John 19:30)
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OK, this thread is four and a half years old but I will put in my answer. "Once for all" is found in the New Testament in several places, whether you are looking in the King James dating back to 1611 or modern translations: Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 10:2, 10:10 and Jude 1:3. It always means one time for all people. Christ died once for all. Of course, there is finality in what he did. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. (John 19:30)
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OK, this thread is four and a half years old but I will put in my answer. "Once for all" is found in the New Testament in several places, whether you are looking in the King James dating back to 1611 or modern translations: Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 10:2, 10:10 and Jude 1:3. It always means one time for all people. Christ died once for all. Of course, there is finality in what he did. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. (John 19:30)
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I only ever say 'once and for all'.
– Peter
Jul 3 '14 at 23:43
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Please do not put a space before punctuation like ? in English. It does not look right to us; it looks French.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 0:50
@tchrist I thought it was the right way. Thanks.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:03
@Luis It is a difference between French and English. I’d have to think a bit to decide whether it applies to Portuguese or Spanish, or dig up some books from the basement to see how it gets used there.
– tchrist♦
Jul 4 '14 at 1:06
Most people here do it the way you do, with no space. I'm an exception, I guess.
– Centaurus
Jul 4 '14 at 1:08