Which of $int_0^{0.5} cos(x^2),dx$ and $int_0^{0.5} cos(sqrt{x}),dx$ is larger, and why?
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- $$int_0^{0.5} cos(x^2),dx$$
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- $$int_0^{0.5} cos(x^2),dx$$
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What do you think? Have you tried anything that you have learned in Calculus?
– Eleven-Eleven
Nov 29 at 15:30
I used the property--If $$mle M$$ for $$ale xle b$$, then $$m(b-a)le int_a^b f(x),dxle M(b-a)$$ But I think it isn't helpful...
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Nov 29 at 15:44
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- $$int_0^{0.5} cos(x^2),dx$$
- $$int_0^{0.5} cos(sqrt{x}),dx$$
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- $$int_0^{0.5} cos(x^2),dx$$
- $$int_0^{0.5} cos(sqrt{x}),dx$$
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What do you think? Have you tried anything that you have learned in Calculus?
– Eleven-Eleven
Nov 29 at 15:30
I used the property--If $$mle M$$ for $$ale xle b$$, then $$m(b-a)le int_a^b f(x),dxle M(b-a)$$ But I think it isn't helpful...
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:44
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What do you think? Have you tried anything that you have learned in Calculus?
– Eleven-Eleven
Nov 29 at 15:30
I used the property--If $$mle M$$ for $$ale xle b$$, then $$m(b-a)le int_a^b f(x),dxle M(b-a)$$ But I think it isn't helpful...
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:44
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What do you think? Have you tried anything that you have learned in Calculus?
– Eleven-Eleven
Nov 29 at 15:30
What do you think? Have you tried anything that you have learned in Calculus?
– Eleven-Eleven
Nov 29 at 15:30
I used the property--If $$mle M$$ for $$ale xle b$$, then $$m(b-a)le int_a^b f(x),dxle M(b-a)$$ But I think it isn't helpful...
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:44
I used the property--If $$mle M$$ for $$ale xle b$$, then $$m(b-a)le int_a^b f(x),dxle M(b-a)$$ But I think it isn't helpful...
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:44
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If $0le xle 0.5$, $x^2lesqrt{x}impliescos x^2ge cossqrt{x}$, so the first integral is greater.
At DavidG's suggestion, I'll mention the $implies$ uses the fact that $cos x$ decreases on this interval.
2
Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
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@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
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Make a change of variables $x^2=u$ in the first integral (hence $dx=frac{1}{2}u^{-1/2}du$) and $sqrt x=u$ in the second integral (hence $dx=2udu$). Note that the integration limits change, but it is then easy to find the solution. Isn't?
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The integral with $cos x^2$ is slightly bigger than the one with $cos sqrt x$, simply for the property that x got a bigger exponent; you can verify this even on software like Wolfram Alpha Online.
edit: for the range considered this is true
That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
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Note that $sqrt{0.5} < pi/2$ and $0.5^2 < pi/2$. So, $cos(x^2)$ and $cos(sqrt{x})$ will be positive and decreasing for $xin(0,0.5)$. Now note that $x^2$ is increasing less quickly than $sqrt{x}$ on $xin(0,0.5)$. In a sense this verifies $0 < cos(sqrt{x}) < cos(x^2)$ for all $xin(0,0.5)$. Hence, the integral of $cos(x^2)$ will be greater than $cos(sqrt{x})$ over the interval $(0,0.5)$.
As an extra notion, it is not too difficult to extend this idea for the interval $(0,sqrt{pi/2})$. Going a bit further than this would require more work.
Hope this intuitive approach helps. If you have any questions feel free to ask them!
What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
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Just a small addition:
How do we know that for each $0le xle 0.5$ , $x^2lesqrt{x}$ ?
Two ways:
- Plot the graphs of the two functions on the same coordinate system.
You will see immediately that the only point the graphs cross each other is $(x=0, y=0)$.
For each point other than $x=0$ you'll find out that $x^2lesqrt{x}$ .
- The easier way (or the "brutal" one...) :
Just assign the two edges of the range in the inequality equation:
Take a calculator.
Assign $x=0$ . You'll get an equality.
But if you assign higher values, including $x=0.5$ , you'll get through the values given by your calculator are higher for $sqrt{x}$ than the values of $x^2$.
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5 Answers
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5 Answers
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
5
down vote
accepted
If $0le xle 0.5$, $x^2lesqrt{x}impliescos x^2ge cossqrt{x}$, so the first integral is greater.
At DavidG's suggestion, I'll mention the $implies$ uses the fact that $cos x$ decreases on this interval.
2
Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
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@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
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up vote
5
down vote
accepted
If $0le xle 0.5$, $x^2lesqrt{x}impliescos x^2ge cossqrt{x}$, so the first integral is greater.
At DavidG's suggestion, I'll mention the $implies$ uses the fact that $cos x$ decreases on this interval.
2
Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
1
@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
If $0le xle 0.5$, $x^2lesqrt{x}impliescos x^2ge cossqrt{x}$, so the first integral is greater.
At DavidG's suggestion, I'll mention the $implies$ uses the fact that $cos x$ decreases on this interval.
If $0le xle 0.5$, $x^2lesqrt{x}impliescos x^2ge cossqrt{x}$, so the first integral is greater.
At DavidG's suggestion, I'll mention the $implies$ uses the fact that $cos x$ decreases on this interval.
edited Nov 30 at 9:47
answered Nov 29 at 15:36
J.G.
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Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
1
@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
|
show 1 more comment
2
Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
1
@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
2
2
Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
Much nicer and more elegant than my answer.
– Frobenius
Nov 29 at 15:40
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
I think this is the easy way to check this problem
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:41
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Thank you!! That's easy way to solve.
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:59
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
Does it need to be stated that $cos(x)$ is strictly increasing on that interval?
– DavidG
Nov 30 at 9:46
1
1
@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
@DavidG You mean strictly decreasing.
– J.G.
Nov 30 at 9:46
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
2
down vote
Make a change of variables $x^2=u$ in the first integral (hence $dx=frac{1}{2}u^{-1/2}du$) and $sqrt x=u$ in the second integral (hence $dx=2udu$). Note that the integration limits change, but it is then easy to find the solution. Isn't?
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
Make a change of variables $x^2=u$ in the first integral (hence $dx=frac{1}{2}u^{-1/2}du$) and $sqrt x=u$ in the second integral (hence $dx=2udu$). Note that the integration limits change, but it is then easy to find the solution. Isn't?
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Make a change of variables $x^2=u$ in the first integral (hence $dx=frac{1}{2}u^{-1/2}du$) and $sqrt x=u$ in the second integral (hence $dx=2udu$). Note that the integration limits change, but it is then easy to find the solution. Isn't?
Make a change of variables $x^2=u$ in the first integral (hence $dx=frac{1}{2}u^{-1/2}du$) and $sqrt x=u$ in the second integral (hence $dx=2udu$). Note that the integration limits change, but it is then easy to find the solution. Isn't?
answered Nov 29 at 15:37
Frobenius
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The integral with $cos x^2$ is slightly bigger than the one with $cos sqrt x$, simply for the property that x got a bigger exponent; you can verify this even on software like Wolfram Alpha Online.
edit: for the range considered this is true
That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
The integral with $cos x^2$ is slightly bigger than the one with $cos sqrt x$, simply for the property that x got a bigger exponent; you can verify this even on software like Wolfram Alpha Online.
edit: for the range considered this is true
That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
The integral with $cos x^2$ is slightly bigger than the one with $cos sqrt x$, simply for the property that x got a bigger exponent; you can verify this even on software like Wolfram Alpha Online.
edit: for the range considered this is true
The integral with $cos x^2$ is slightly bigger than the one with $cos sqrt x$, simply for the property that x got a bigger exponent; you can verify this even on software like Wolfram Alpha Online.
edit: for the range considered this is true
edited Nov 29 at 15:42
answered Nov 29 at 15:35
Alessar
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That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
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That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
That's true, I forgot the specific range; you're right
– Alessar
Nov 29 at 15:42
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Note that $sqrt{0.5} < pi/2$ and $0.5^2 < pi/2$. So, $cos(x^2)$ and $cos(sqrt{x})$ will be positive and decreasing for $xin(0,0.5)$. Now note that $x^2$ is increasing less quickly than $sqrt{x}$ on $xin(0,0.5)$. In a sense this verifies $0 < cos(sqrt{x}) < cos(x^2)$ for all $xin(0,0.5)$. Hence, the integral of $cos(x^2)$ will be greater than $cos(sqrt{x})$ over the interval $(0,0.5)$.
As an extra notion, it is not too difficult to extend this idea for the interval $(0,sqrt{pi/2})$. Going a bit further than this would require more work.
Hope this intuitive approach helps. If you have any questions feel free to ask them!
What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
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up vote
1
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Note that $sqrt{0.5} < pi/2$ and $0.5^2 < pi/2$. So, $cos(x^2)$ and $cos(sqrt{x})$ will be positive and decreasing for $xin(0,0.5)$. Now note that $x^2$ is increasing less quickly than $sqrt{x}$ on $xin(0,0.5)$. In a sense this verifies $0 < cos(sqrt{x}) < cos(x^2)$ for all $xin(0,0.5)$. Hence, the integral of $cos(x^2)$ will be greater than $cos(sqrt{x})$ over the interval $(0,0.5)$.
As an extra notion, it is not too difficult to extend this idea for the interval $(0,sqrt{pi/2})$. Going a bit further than this would require more work.
Hope this intuitive approach helps. If you have any questions feel free to ask them!
What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
add a comment |
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Note that $sqrt{0.5} < pi/2$ and $0.5^2 < pi/2$. So, $cos(x^2)$ and $cos(sqrt{x})$ will be positive and decreasing for $xin(0,0.5)$. Now note that $x^2$ is increasing less quickly than $sqrt{x}$ on $xin(0,0.5)$. In a sense this verifies $0 < cos(sqrt{x}) < cos(x^2)$ for all $xin(0,0.5)$. Hence, the integral of $cos(x^2)$ will be greater than $cos(sqrt{x})$ over the interval $(0,0.5)$.
As an extra notion, it is not too difficult to extend this idea for the interval $(0,sqrt{pi/2})$. Going a bit further than this would require more work.
Hope this intuitive approach helps. If you have any questions feel free to ask them!
Note that $sqrt{0.5} < pi/2$ and $0.5^2 < pi/2$. So, $cos(x^2)$ and $cos(sqrt{x})$ will be positive and decreasing for $xin(0,0.5)$. Now note that $x^2$ is increasing less quickly than $sqrt{x}$ on $xin(0,0.5)$. In a sense this verifies $0 < cos(sqrt{x}) < cos(x^2)$ for all $xin(0,0.5)$. Hence, the integral of $cos(x^2)$ will be greater than $cos(sqrt{x})$ over the interval $(0,0.5)$.
As an extra notion, it is not too difficult to extend this idea for the interval $(0,sqrt{pi/2})$. Going a bit further than this would require more work.
Hope this intuitive approach helps. If you have any questions feel free to ask them!
edited Nov 29 at 15:44
answered Nov 29 at 15:40
Stan Tendijck
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What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
add a comment |
What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
What do you mean by $0.5^2 approx 0.25$? Are they not equal?
– Théophile
Nov 29 at 15:43
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
Technically it is true but I just edited the post because it looked silly
– Stan Tendijck
Nov 29 at 15:45
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Just a small addition:
How do we know that for each $0le xle 0.5$ , $x^2lesqrt{x}$ ?
Two ways:
- Plot the graphs of the two functions on the same coordinate system.
You will see immediately that the only point the graphs cross each other is $(x=0, y=0)$.
For each point other than $x=0$ you'll find out that $x^2lesqrt{x}$ .
- The easier way (or the "brutal" one...) :
Just assign the two edges of the range in the inequality equation:
Take a calculator.
Assign $x=0$ . You'll get an equality.
But if you assign higher values, including $x=0.5$ , you'll get through the values given by your calculator are higher for $sqrt{x}$ than the values of $x^2$.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Just a small addition:
How do we know that for each $0le xle 0.5$ , $x^2lesqrt{x}$ ?
Two ways:
- Plot the graphs of the two functions on the same coordinate system.
You will see immediately that the only point the graphs cross each other is $(x=0, y=0)$.
For each point other than $x=0$ you'll find out that $x^2lesqrt{x}$ .
- The easier way (or the "brutal" one...) :
Just assign the two edges of the range in the inequality equation:
Take a calculator.
Assign $x=0$ . You'll get an equality.
But if you assign higher values, including $x=0.5$ , you'll get through the values given by your calculator are higher for $sqrt{x}$ than the values of $x^2$.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Just a small addition:
How do we know that for each $0le xle 0.5$ , $x^2lesqrt{x}$ ?
Two ways:
- Plot the graphs of the two functions on the same coordinate system.
You will see immediately that the only point the graphs cross each other is $(x=0, y=0)$.
For each point other than $x=0$ you'll find out that $x^2lesqrt{x}$ .
- The easier way (or the "brutal" one...) :
Just assign the two edges of the range in the inequality equation:
Take a calculator.
Assign $x=0$ . You'll get an equality.
But if you assign higher values, including $x=0.5$ , you'll get through the values given by your calculator are higher for $sqrt{x}$ than the values of $x^2$.
Just a small addition:
How do we know that for each $0le xle 0.5$ , $x^2lesqrt{x}$ ?
Two ways:
- Plot the graphs of the two functions on the same coordinate system.
You will see immediately that the only point the graphs cross each other is $(x=0, y=0)$.
For each point other than $x=0$ you'll find out that $x^2lesqrt{x}$ .
- The easier way (or the "brutal" one...) :
Just assign the two edges of the range in the inequality equation:
Take a calculator.
Assign $x=0$ . You'll get an equality.
But if you assign higher values, including $x=0.5$ , you'll get through the values given by your calculator are higher for $sqrt{x}$ than the values of $x^2$.
answered Nov 29 at 17:18
Yoel Zajac
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What do you think? Have you tried anything that you have learned in Calculus?
– Eleven-Eleven
Nov 29 at 15:30
I used the property--If $$mle M$$ for $$ale xle b$$, then $$m(b-a)le int_a^b f(x),dxle M(b-a)$$ But I think it isn't helpful...
– Maggie
Nov 29 at 15:44